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Old 06-21-2011, 04:24 PM   #1
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Here's a rating, incorporating some suggestions. feel free to amend it.
Who would have thought hobbits were so courageous (other then Gandalf, that is )

1-Sam Gives the Ring back to Frodo
2-Frodo's efforts to destroy the Ring
3-Bilbo leaves the Ring for Frodo
4-Bilbo goes down the tunnel to first Smaug confrontation
5-Gollum's epic efforts to regain the Ring
6-Pippin looks into the Palantir
7-Sam fights Shelob
8-Frodo defies the nazgul at the Ford of Bruinen
9-The Bullroarer kills an orc while he's defending The Shire
10-Bilbo gets the dwarves out of Thranduil's Realm
11-Pippin kills a troll outside the Iron Gates
12-Bilbo saves the dwarves from the giant spiders
13-Rosie has numerous children and emotionally supports Samwise
14-Bilbo gives the Arkenstone to the elves and men of Dale
15-Farmer Cotton
16-Merry helps slay the Witchking of Angmar
17-Maggot and the Gaffer are not cowed in questioning by the nazgul
18-Bilbo returns to Erebor after giving up the Arkenstone
19-Lobelia confronts Sharkey's gang with her umbrella
20-The Hobbit Archers join the struggle against Angmar
21-Frodo finally (with "assistance" from Boromir) decides to go to Mordor
22-Deagol finds the Ring in the Anduin
23-Fatty Bolger stays behind to cover Frodo's trail
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Old 06-22-2011, 01:14 PM   #2
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No one's mentioned the courage of male Hobbits in marrying women with such hairy feet? Or the patience of Hobbit women in cooking meals for their husbands every two hours?

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22-Deagol finds the Ring in the Anduin
I wouldn't count that as particularly brave, though it certainly was a noteworthy deed, attributable to "luck" though it was.
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Old 06-22-2011, 02:17 PM   #3
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I wouldn't count that as particularly brave, though it certainly was a noteworthy deed, attributable to "luck" though it was.
I think it's more of a great deed on the Rings part than Deagol's.
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Old 06-22-2011, 04:35 PM   #4
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Why is it of greater significance that Sam gives the ring back to Frodo, than Bilbo leaves the Ring for Frodo?
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Old 06-23-2011, 04:43 AM   #5
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Why is it of greater significance that Sam gives the ring back to Frodo, than Bilbo leaves the Ring for Frodo?
It's a good question Rune, on the one hand Bilbo held it the longest of the three, on the other Sam held it closer to Mordor where it was excerting more power to corrupt...... so who showed more willpower in giving it up?
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It's a good question Rune, on the one hand Bilbo held it the longest of the three, on the other Sam held it closer to Mordor where it was excerting more power to corrupt...... so who showed more willpower in giving it up?
Also, Bilbo had the help of Gandalf. But Sam was giving it to Frodo, to whom he was ready to give his life.

Personally, I think Bilbo did a greater thing. Firstly, he was the first ever to give away the Ring without physical strength involved. Secondly, Sam was only "borrowing" the Ring, and he took it with the assumption that it's still Frodo's, the "rightful" ringbearers. Bilbo was, in a sense, the Ringbearer. He should be compared to Frodo, not Sam. But in Frodo's case, there are too many factors like proximity to Modor involved. In his case, it really plays a differenre.

It's the difference of giving back and giving away.
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