Itaril - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

LadyBrooke · 06-19-2011, 11:23 PM

I think PJ is prejudiced against elves, and wants to make everyone else hate them too.

That's the only explanation for all of this, unless he believes that people are so shallow that women only go to movies with strong female characters (I've never understood this idea...) and that guys have to be tempted by hot female actors to go see a movie.

Also, I'm more scared now then I was when I thought Itaril/Tauriel was Legolas's love interest...if she isn't his love interest, then she's likely someone else's. Which quite frankly scares me. If she ends up being Thranduil/Bilbo/Bard's love interest, I'm taking a knife to the screen. Same if she ends up being the one to slay Smaug/sneak the dwarves out of the dungeons/rescue them from the goblins.

TheMisfortuneTeller · 06-20-2011, 12:13 AM

It seems clear to me that this re-branded demographic loss-leader of a "character" suffers from Popeye's Existential Conundrum:

"If I'm not me, who am I? And if I'm somebody else, then why do I look like me?"

Recruiting this actress from the cast of the TV-movie "Lost" does seem rather appropriate, though, if one has a taste for unintended irony.

Mithalwen · 06-20-2011, 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by LadyBrooke

Also, I'm more scared now then I was when I thought Itaril/Tauriel was Legolas's love interest...if she isn't his love interest, then she's likely someone else's. Which quite frankly scares me. If she ends up being Thranduil/Bilbo/Bard's love interest, I'm taking a knife to the screen. Same if she ends up being the one to slay Smaug/sneak the dwarves out of the dungeons/rescue them from the goblins.

The only comfort is that Bard is now cast - so maybe that is significant that maybe Itaril was going to take Bard's role but this creature isn't? However I note that Galion and the Gaoler haven't been which is concerning.

When I heard the new name I thought of the geometrical shape a toros (like a ring doughnut) . Is maybe not inappropriate - a shape without proper substance and a heart and torus being Latin for cushion - I mean this is part of the padding needed to turn a short book into two long films. KERching!!!

Morthoron · 06-20-2011, 10:10 AM

Tauriel? Tauriel!
No elven name can hide the smell.
That sulfur stench from fan-fic wells
Up from Jackson's scripting Hell.

Hilde Bracegirdle · 06-20-2011, 10:58 AM

Well, maybe I shouldn't see the movies! What the?!

TheMisfortuneTeller · 06-20-2011, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Hilde Bracegirdle

Well, maybe I shouldn't see the movies!

You may have a valid reason for staying home with a good book, given the truly depressing speculation currently taking place at the OneRing site:

http://www.theonering.net/torwp/2011...in/#more-45330

"Just who is Tauriel?" Short answer: "Nobody."

I'd like to see Bilbo Baggins and Smeagol/Gollum doing "Riddles in the Dark." That will no doubt happen. Bilbo and Smaug will also have their little verbal duel over a pile of looted treasure. Bilbo and Thorin will fall out and reconcile over the Arkenstone. Perhaps Christopher Lee will get sufficient screen time to show the slow-motion corruption of Saruman the White. I'd like to see that on the big screen. But having to endure this needless elf-chick thing when so many other tales need telling, well, that I resent -- bitterly.

Mithalwen · 06-20-2011, 03:10 PM

I suppose at best she might be one of the raft elves unnamed in the book. But every bog name they get for small? roles just seems to say they have no confidence in the screen play on it's own merits and htey hope we will be too busy star spotting.

Inziladun · 06-20-2011, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Mithalwen

I suppose at best she might be one of the raft elves unnamed in the book. But every bog name they get for small? roles just seems to say they have no confidence in the screen play on it's own merits and htey hope we will be too busy star spotting.

Really! What's the point of doing book-to-movie adaptations if they're just going to monkey around with it for the sake of making the story "cinematic"? What's the need for creating characters like Lurtz and Tauriel? What's the need for adding new scenes or characters for "drama" or "extra tension"? I see today's movie makers as having a deal of contempt for the viewer, who isn't advanced enough to appreciate movies unless there are explosions, odious comic-relief, and high-visibility romantic subplots. I know there's the rare book that translates fairly well to the screen (Richard Matheson's Hell House and the Harry Potter series come to mind), but to me Tolkien's work just isn't suitable for movie treatment.

LadyBrooke · 06-20-2011, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMisfortuneTeller

Perhaps Christopher Lee will get sufficient screen time to show the slow-motion corruption of Saruman the White. I'd like to see that on the big screen.

Christopehr Lee is the one thing making me go see this movie after all the new Tauriel stuff - if he get cut, I am 99% positive that I am not going to see this movie.

06-19-2011, 11:23 PM	#1
LadyBrooke Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: The modern day version of Edoras: horses, wind, rolling plains =) Posts: 507	I think PJ is prejudiced against elves, and wants to make everyone else hate them too. That's the only explanation for all of this, unless he believes that people are so shallow that women only go to movies with strong female characters (I've never understood this idea...) and that guys have to be tempted by hot female actors to go see a movie. Also, I'm more scared now then I was when I thought Itaril/Tauriel was Legolas's love interest...if she isn't his love interest, then she's likely someone else's. Which quite frankly scares me. If she ends up being Thranduil/Bilbo/Bard's love interest, I'm taking a knife to the screen. Same if she ends up being the one to slay Smaug/sneak the dwarves out of the dungeons/rescue them from the goblins. __________________ Busy, Busy, Busy...hoping for more free time soon.

06-20-2011, 12:13 AM	#2
TheMisfortuneTeller Haunting Spirit Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 63	Popeye's Existential Conundrum It seems clear to me that this re-branded demographic loss-leader of a "character" suffers from Popeye's Existential Conundrum: "If I'm not me, who am I? And if I'm somebody else, then why do I look like me?" Recruiting this actress from the cast of the TV-movie "Lost" does seem rather appropriate, though, if one has a taste for unintended irony. __________________ "If it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; but as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic." -- Tweedledee

06-20-2011, 10:10 AM	#4
Morthoron Curmudgeonly Wordwraith Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Ensconced in curmudgeonly pursuits Posts: 2,515	Tauriel? Tauriel! No elven name can hide the smell. That sulfur stench from fan-fic wells Up from Jackson's scripting Hell. __________________ And your little sister's immaculate virginity wings away on the bony shoulders of a young horse named George who stole surreptitiously into her geography revision.

06-20-2011, 03:10 PM	#7
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,461	I suppose at best she might be one of the raft elves unnamed in the book. But every bog name they get for small? roles just seems to say they have no confidence in the screen play on it's own merits and htey hope we will be too busy star spotting. __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

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06-20-2011, 10:58 AM	#5
Hilde Bracegirdle Relic of Wandering Days Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: You'll See Perpetual Change. Posts: 1,480	Well, maybe I shouldn't see the movies! What the?!