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View Poll Results: Who is your favorite Sindarin ruler?
Thingol 7 20.59%
Dior 2 5.88%
Elwing 0 0%
Celeborn 5 14.71%
Cirdan 14 41.18%
Amdir 1 2.94%
Amroth 0 0%
Oropher 0 0%
Thranduil 5 14.71%
Legolas 0 0%
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Old 06-11-2011, 03:15 PM   #1
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I voted for Celeborn, because in spite of the movie's portrayal, I found him quite smart in the books, just not as in your face as Galadriel. Though, the only one on the list I can't stand at all is Elwing. She strikes me as a selfish brat, only concerned with herself, her possessions, and her husband at the cost of everything else - including her children.
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Old 06-11-2011, 03:23 PM   #2
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I voted for Celeborn, because in spite of the movie's portrayal, I found him quite smart in the books, just not as in your face as Galadriel.
I almost voted for Celeborn for the same reasons, but he's a bit rash, and in LOTR he's kind of overshadowed by Galadriel. And he doesn't have the same presence as Cirdan. He's ancient, but not eternal.

Or, in other words, I just like Cirdan better as a character.

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Though, the only one on the list I can't stand at all is Elwing. She strikes me as a selfish brat, only concerned with herself, her possessions, and her husband at the cost of everything else - including her children.
I think so to. I mean, she has time to run away with the Silmaril, but she's OK with leaving Elrond and Elros to their fate...

But I like the connection with birds and Sea. It's kind of like a myth within a myth in a mythology. Whenever I look at Lottie's avvie, I think of Elwing...
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Old 06-11-2011, 06:38 PM   #3
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I might have missed it, but did we ever see Legolas as a ruler?
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Old 06-11-2011, 11:38 PM   #4
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I might have missed it, but did we ever see Legolas as a ruler?
We don't actually see it, as in read that he did so and so as ruler, but it's stated in RotK that he founded and ruled over a colony of elves in Ithilien.

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I almost voted for Celeborn for the same reasons, but he's a bit rash, and in LOTR he's kind of overshadowed by Galadriel. And he doesn't have the same presence as Cirdan. He's ancient, but not eternal.

Or, in other words, I just like Cirdan better as a character.
Perfectly understandable that you like him better. I'll admit, the rashness is what draws me to Celeborn and Thranduil...out of the Third Age elves, they seem to be some of the few that aren't passive and weary of Middle-Earth. He didn't seem that overshadowed to me by Galadriel, though. After I finished the book, I remembered more of what he said, and had a impression of Galadriel. Cirdan didn't even register, other then that guy with the boats, who sent that one elf to the Council of Elrond.

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I think so to. I mean, she has time to run away with the Silmaril, but she's OK with leaving Elrond and Elros to their fate...

But I like the connection with birds and Sea. It's kind of like a myth within a myth in a mythology. Whenever I look at Lottie's avvie, I think of Elwing...
The worst thing is, it's not like she had any reason to think that they wouldn't be killed. Her own twin brothers were left to starve to death in the middle of the forest when Doriath was sacked. And really, I don't think that the people who originally got the Silmaril, Beren and Luthien, would have thought so kindly of her abandoning her children. I mean, maybe it's just me, but they didn't strike me as the kind of people that approved of abandoning small children to fend for themselves against warriors. Don't get me started on her dear in laws....
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Old 06-13-2011, 03:40 AM   #5
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I voted for Thingol.

Of all the Elves who remained in Middle Earth, he alone had been to Amman, had met the Valar and had experienced the Light of the Two Trees. He exhibited all the atributes of the great Noldor princes (and all their faults) and had the love of his people, so much so that they gave up the chance of crossing the Sea to the Undying Lands with their fellow Elves.

Thingol also won the love of one of the Ainur, who took the form of an Elf to become his wife. There must have been something very special about him.
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