Wight Fright: "Fog on the Barrow-Downs" Discussion Thread - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Mithalwen · 03-17-2011, 10:34 AM

Ooh I'll write in a Duke attack

Well I didn't want to bunny him and I think the Woodeaveses can be a bit intimidating en masse. And who wants to get involved in a family argument especially when it is someone else's family?

Oh, my mum's theory was you had to really believe and he would do his stuff. I won't have a word said against him but cats are quite clever on their own account.

What I am curious about, Envinyatar, is if Willem was always going to be a Beorning when you started writing him?

Envinyatar · 03-17-2011, 06:46 PM

Willem was first just written to be an eccentric/interesting person. But then, I was re-reading The Hobbit and got to Queer Lodgings. Thought I'd inject a bit of magic into little Jess' life and make him a skinchanger.

Mithalwen · 03-17-2011, 09:27 PM

Then I won't feel so bad about not making the link sooner despite thinking "ooh that's specific" and "like Beorn" when I read the directions on honey and vegetarianism...

not my brightest hour. But it worked so well I thought it had to be pre-meditated.

Durelin · 03-17-2011, 09:29 PM

Sorry for doing the whole recap sort of thing in my post, I know that can be irritating. I just enjoy seeing Jessamy through Karl's eyes, haha.

Anyway, the only part that prompts any response is the second to last paragraph.

At this point Karl is a little paranoid...and of course I'm hoping that might spark a mention of the bear

(if they identified it as a bear, I forget...)

Edit: I didn't make any connection to Beorn until the reveal...and I was just looking at the Middle-earth atlas at the diagram of Beorn's house with all his beehives.

Mithalwen · 03-17-2011, 10:02 PM

Yep, Seth did - the others are a bit more in denial! I think Jessamy is still young enough to believe grown ups can sortjust about everything and to find all the stories real - especially with the "proof" of Edwin's state that she is more reassured than freaked out by Willem. She accepts him as a wizard whether he is or not - and really Bree must have been such a limited place that he would seem magical to her even if he didn't have furry pyjamas ..

And she knows and trusts Karl and he has vouched for Willem...

So not annoying at all.

Envinyatar · 03-18-2011, 08:12 AM

Will get a post up later today bringing Willem back to the caravan.

Is the wagon the brothers brought an open one or covered?

Mithalwen · 03-18-2011, 08:24 AM

I thought of it as an ordinary open one. Silas wouldn't really need a covered waggon in his line of work just a few tarpaulins to cover stuff if it was really wet.

Glad to know Willem has now located his trousers...

Or at least I hope he has...

Envinyatar · 03-18-2011, 10:50 PM

He's ba-aa-ck! And yes, he's dressed and c*o*l*d!!!!

03-17-2011, 10:34 AM	#1
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,461	Ooh I'll write in a Duke attack Well I didn't want to bunny him and I think the Woodeaveses can be a bit intimidating en masse. And who wants to get involved in a family argument especially when it is someone else's family? Oh, my mum's theory was you had to really believe and he would do his stuff. I won't have a word said against him but cats are quite clever on their own account. What I am curious about, Envinyatar, is if Willem was always going to be a Beorning when you started writing him? __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace Last edited by Mithalwen; 03-17-2011 at 11:01 AM.

03-17-2011, 06:46 PM	#2
Envinyatar Quill Revenant Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Wandering through the Downs..... Posts: 849	Willem was first just written to be an eccentric/interesting person. But then, I was re-reading The Hobbit and got to Queer Lodgings. Thought I'd inject a bit of magic into little Jess' life and make him a skinchanger. __________________ ‘Many are the strange chances of the world,’ said Mithrandir, ‘and help oft shall come from the hands of the weak when the Wise falter.’ – Gandalf in: The Silmarillion, 'Of the Rings of Power and the Third Age'

03-17-2011, 09:27 PM	#3
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,461	Then I won't feel so bad about not making the link sooner despite thinking "ooh that's specific" and "like Beorn" when I read the directions on honey and vegetarianism... not my brightest hour. But it worked so well I thought it had to be pre-meditated. __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

03-17-2011, 10:02 PM	#5
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,461	Yep, Seth did - the others are a bit more in denial! I think Jessamy is still young enough to believe grown ups can sortjust about everything and to find all the stories real - especially with the "proof" of Edwin's state that she is more reassured than freaked out by Willem. She accepts him as a wizard whether he is or not - and really Bree must have been such a limited place that he would seem magical to her even if he didn't have furry pyjamas .. And she knows and trusts Karl and he has vouched for Willem... So not annoying at all. __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace Last edited by Mithalwen; 03-17-2011 at 10:07 PM.

03-18-2011, 08:12 AM	#6
Envinyatar Quill Revenant Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Wandering through the Downs..... Posts: 849	Will get a post up later today bringing Willem back to the caravan. Is the wagon the brothers brought an open one or covered? __________________ ‘Many are the strange chances of the world,’ said Mithrandir, ‘and help oft shall come from the hands of the weak when the Wise falter.’ – Gandalf in: The Silmarillion, 'Of the Rings of Power and the Third Age'

03-17-2011, 09:29 PM	#4
Durelin Estelo dagnir, Melo ring Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,063	Sorry for doing the whole recap sort of thing in my post, I know that can be irritating. I just enjoy seeing Jessamy through Karl's eyes, haha. Anyway, the only part that prompts any response is the second to last paragraph. At this point Karl is a little paranoid...and of course I'm hoping that might spark a mention of the bear (if they identified it as a bear, I forget...) Edit: I didn't make any connection to Beorn until the reveal...and I was just looking at the Middle-earth atlas at the diagram of Beorn's house with all his beehives.

03-18-2011, 08:24 AM	#7
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,461	I thought of it as an ordinary open one. Silas wouldn't really need a covered waggon in his line of work just a few tarpaulins to cover stuff if it was really wet. Glad to know Willem has now located his trousers... Or at least I hope he has... __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace Last edited by Mithalwen; 03-18-2011 at 08:30 AM.

03-18-2011, 10:50 PM	#8
Envinyatar Quill Revenant Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Wandering through the Downs..... Posts: 849	He's ba-aa-ck! And yes, he's dressed and col*d!!!! __________________ ‘Many are the strange chances of the world,’ said Mithrandir, ‘and help oft shall come from the hands of the weak when the Wise falter.’ – Gandalf in: The Silmarillion, 'Of the Rings of Power and the Third Age'

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