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Bom Tombadillo · 02-25-2011, 12:05 PM

I've read bits of a good few archived WW games and at one time read all the way through the original, but I suppose it can't hurt to read through the full rules and will probably prevent some blunders.

Also, the KD-identifier seems . . . interesting. I'll let my elders and betters weigh in on balance.

Mänwe · 02-25-2011, 12:29 PM

I wouldn't kick and scream if it were included but I quite liked the original set up of limited gifted roles.

And hello to Bom!

Pitchwife · 02-25-2011, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Bom Tombadillo

I'll let my elders and betters weigh in on balance.

Buttering up, eh? Wolf! Lynch him!

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Originally Posted by Mänwe

I wouldn't kick and scream if it were included but I quite liked the original set up of limited gifted roles.

Same here, more or less. The KD-seer is an interesting idea, but having a very limited cast of gifteds for a change is quite interesting, too.
What you could do, however, is make the Sweetheart the KD-seer; that would make sense storywise, wouldn't it? Maybe you could even make it so that she only becomes the Sweetheart when/if she discovers the KD?
Anyway, if you decide to have the KD-seer as an extra role, I don't think the KD should know his/her identity. Don't take away the fun of hinting to an unknown ally (including fake-hinting and looking for hints)!

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Originally Posted by Foley

Obviously, in the game, we know who all the characters are...

Er, sorry? I don't get this. Or do you mean character as opposed to role here?

By the way, just noticed that we have thirteen players now (if Glirdan can make it). Looks like this game might even start sometime in the foreseeable future...

Bom Tombadillo · 02-25-2011, 02:04 PM

Accusing an OBVIOUS innocent, eh? Lynch 'im!

*looks at Folwren*

On second thought . . . How many games have you seen where the moderator was a wolf? None, right? Wouldn't that make it the perfect cover? Lynch xer!

Pitchwife · 02-25-2011, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Bom Tombadillo

Accusing an OBVIOUS innocent, eh? Lynch 'im!

*looks at Folwren*

On second thought . . . How many games have you seen where the moderator was a wolf? None, right? Wouldn't that make it the perfect cover? Lynch xer!

You mean just because you're named after a certain character renowned for silly poetry and being notoriously left out of adaptations, you OBVIOUSly can't be evil? That's meta, my dear.
On the other hand, you have a point about Foley. The problem with that is, if we lynch the Moddess, there's no game, so we shouldn't. Now suspect me for being wishy-washy!

Folwren · 02-25-2011, 03:43 PM

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On second thought . . . How many games have you seen where the moderator was a wolf? None, right? Wouldn't that make it the perfect cover? Lynch xer!

Oi! Mind your manners, or you'll be booted, you will! No lyinching before the game starts, and don't even THINK of lynching me. Besides, you don't really think you could get rid of me that easily, do you?

Well, some players think at least one more gifted would be good. But maybe everyone would be happy if the game didn't end if the KD were killed at night, like I originall wrote it.

I like the Sweetheart being the KD-seer (that is, 'seer' looking for the KD), and not becoming the Sweetheart until after she's found him out.

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Er, sorry? I don't get this. Or do you mean character as opposed to role here?

I meant, we all know that there is a King's Dwarf in the mix...never mind, it doesn't really matter.

Bom Tombadillo · 02-26-2011, 06:01 PM

That idea is interesting, but my opinion of it is based on whether or not roles are revealed on death (read: are they?) . . . If not, then we get all sorts of interesting sitchyations with whether or not for the Forges to kill the KD due to the double-death of the KD and the Sweetheart possibly revealing the KD. This all presumes that you decide not to end the game on a night-kill of the KD, of course . . . Pretty please?

It'd certainly make sense story-wise for the role not to be revealed, since nothing (nothing yet revealed, anyway) physically differentiates a Forger, a KD, or a Sweetheart from your average dwarf, unlike in a game of WW with actual werewolves/ducks/wotsits.

EDIT: Scratch that - I just looked back at the story and saw the part about "the society's brand."

Mänwe · 03-03-2011, 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Folwren

Well, some players think at least one more gifted would be good. But maybe everyone would be happy if the game didn't end if the KD were killed at night, like I originall wrote it.

I like the Sweetheart being the KD-seer (that is, 'seer' looking for the KD), and not becoming the Sweetheart until after she's found him out.

I would be happy

- and I do like the Sweetheart setup you originally planned too.

02-25-2011, 12:05 PM	#1
Bom Tombadillo Wight Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Behind you . . . . BOO! Posts: 222	I've read bits of a good few archived WW games and at one time read all the way through the original, but I suppose it can't hurt to read through the full rules and will probably prevent some blunders. Also, the KD-identifier seems . . . interesting. I'll let my elders and betters weigh in on balance. __________________ Every human should have a cat or two in their care, to teach them the meaning of the word, and to correct them. Phenris Dorph

02-25-2011, 12:29 PM	#2
Mänwe Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: May as well be the Arctic Circle Posts: 283	I wouldn't kick and scream if it were included but I quite liked the original set up of limited gifted roles. And hello to Bom! __________________ "I am, I fear, a most unsatisfactory person." - (Letter #124 To Sir Stanley Unwin)

02-25-2011, 02:04 PM	#4
Bom Tombadillo Wight Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Behind you . . . . BOO! Posts: 222	Accusing an OBVIOUS innocent, eh? Lynch 'im! looks at Folwren On second thought . . . How many games have you seen where the moderator was a wolf? None, right? Wouldn't that make it the perfect cover? Lynch xer! __________________ Every human should have a cat or two in their care, to teach them the meaning of the word, and to correct them. Phenris Dorph

02-26-2011, 06:01 PM	#7
Bom Tombadillo Wight Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Behind you . . . . BOO! Posts: 222	That idea is interesting, but my opinion of it is based on whether or not roles are revealed on death (read: are they?) . . . If not, then we get all sorts of interesting sitchyations with whether or not for the Forges to kill the KD due to the double-death of the KD and the Sweetheart possibly revealing the KD. This all presumes that you decide not to end the game on a night-kill of the KD, of course . . . Pretty please? It'd certainly make sense story-wise for the role not to be revealed, since nothing (nothing yet revealed, anyway) physically differentiates a Forger, a KD, or a Sweetheart from your average dwarf, unlike in a game of WW with actual werewolves/ducks/wotsits. EDIT: Scratch that - I just looked back at the story and saw the part about "the society's brand." __________________ Every human should have a cat or two in their care, to teach them the meaning of the word, and to correct them. Phenris Dorph Last edited by Bom Tombadillo; 02-26-2011 at 06:13 PM. Reason: Sudden attack of unusually productive curiosity.

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