Itaril

[Mithalwen]

She needs a trained hawk maybe....and is secretly really of extremely noble birth -why else would a silvan elf have a Quenya name? The name of Elrond's granny no less...

[Morthoron]

Originally Posted by Mithalwen

She needs a trained hawk maybe....and is secretly really of extremely noble birth -why else would a silvan elf have a Quenya name? The name of Elrond's granny no less...

Because, unbeknownst to us, her silvan parents -- who were killed when she was an infant -- were merely foster parents. In reality, she is Galadriel's love child!

[Galadriel55]

Originally Posted by Morthoron

In reality, she is Galadriel's love child!

That would explain Galadriel's role in TH.

[Dilettante]

HARK! I think I smell a Mary-Sue. You can tell because they smell so sweet they make you nauseated.

(ROFL at all the Mary-Sue comments, I think I have read every one of those attributes in one fanfic or another. )

Really one does have to wonder what PJ and Co. are thinking. Mary-Sues are frowned upon by pretty much everyone, so I just don't get why a script writer would think they were appropriate for the silver screen. (Not that this Itarily-whatshername IS a Sue, but it's really starting to seem that way.)

I'm a female, yes, but I have no trouble at all relating to non-female characters. I relate just fine to dear old Bilbo when he's worried about adventures making one late for dinner, when 13 uninvited and unexpected guests show up and start rummaging through the kitchen (that's the stuff of nightmares) and I would certainly scream myself at the words may never return.

I can even relate a bit to that old miser Smaug who gets rather heated (literally) when a hobbit pinches a cup that he never looks at and barely remembers he owns.

Really I don't know why filmmakers think that you have to have romance to tell a good story. Frankly, romance gets a little dull and predictable after a while, there's only so much you can do with it.

[Bêthberry]

I think the truly subversive character is going to be Mrs. Smaug.

Originally Posted by Dilettante

HARK! I think I smell a Mary-Sue. You can tell because they smell so sweet they make you nauseated.

(ROFL at all the Mary-Sue comments, I think I have read every one of those attributes in one fanfic or another. )

Dilettante, if you get a bang out of Mary-Sues, do take a look at the role playing game called REB (Revenge of the Entish Bow) which was written here by diehard, absolutely canonical Tolkien fans here on the Downs. You can find the game in our Elvenhome, where finished games go: Revenge of the Entish Bow. There's also a sequel! Enjoy!

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Bêthberry

I see RPG parody potential here that would compete with MarySue Whynniel (sorry, Estelyn, I cannot remember the correct spelling of her illustrious name).

Ahem! Mister Morthoron has in fact clearly based Itaril on this RPG character. If only I were sixteen again, I'd threaten legal action immediately.

Setiously, Esty– remember we actually did start another parody RPG a couple of years ago, only it didn't last very long. I think the problem was we went a little overboard in trying to make the characters absolutely authentic Mary Sues– they all ended up so self-absorbed they could barely interact with one another at all.

[Morthoron]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

Ahem! Mister Morthoron has in fact clearly based Itaril on this RPG character. If only I were sixteen again, I'd threaten legal action immediately.

Setiously, Esty– remember we actually did start another parody RPG a couple of years ago, only it didn't last very long. I think the problem was we went a little overboard in trying to make the characters absolutely authentic Mary Sues– they all ended up so self-absorbed they could barely interact with one another at all.

But...but...my character, Amarthanuin the Noegedhil, had to be self-absorbed -- he was a Dwelf, for pity's sake! A Dwelf can do aught but languish in angst!

And yes, like a drunken sword-swallower on the Titanic, that story was a disaster waiting to happen.

[Oddwen]

Showing promise as a fighter at a young age, ITARIL was chosen to train to become part of the Woodland King’s Guard. This is the only life she has ever expected to live, until she meets and secretly falls in love with a young ELF LORD.

Well, so long as it's so secret we never get a whiff of it...

Or maybe she will be shown in flashback as the love of Thranduil.

Welp. I'll see it in the theater, buy it, and then never be able to read The Hobbit again, just like LotR. Thanks PJ.