Game Thread: WW LXXXVI - The Halls of Mandos

[Boromir88]

Originally Posted by Loslote

I didn't mean to tie the vote there yesterDay, and I did make a rather odd face there (something along the lines of o.O, only more so), but Glorfy's save sort of evened out the numbers a teensy bit. I consider it a good exchange, really - someone who could have been a wolf was killed instead of someone who couldn't have. So, all in all, I'm a lot less head-bang-y than I was at the end of yesterDay.

The fact that Glorfindel stopped the wolves kill, doesn't take away the dubious double-lynch. All Glorfindel did was negate the screw up. A good save by Glorfy, doesn't make a bad lynch suddenly a good one. The double-lynch and Glorfy's save are not related, it was still a bad lynch.

A double-lynch is never good, unless both Lommy and Nessa turn up as wolves, or some sort of wolf/cobbler duo. You can't whitewash over the double-lynch as no "biggie", simply because Glorfindel corrected the screw up. Sorry, not going to work.

Originally Posted by Nerwen

On the other hand, it is frustrating to be left in the dark as we are now, and in fact we are quite handicapped by having no wolvish connections to trace. But Boro's breathless enthusiasm for the whole thing is starting to worry me.

Yeah, not enthusiastic about having to come down and be such a stiff, shouting orders.

I mean I considered just saying..."Dead peeps. Listen to me. Check Nessa. I want to know both identities of the double lynch." However, what good would that do? One, I'm not sure how trustworthy I am to the dead people to even listen. And two, we would be left debating in this thread whether they listened to me or not, and that would get us no where.

Look, the fact is, Agan and Shasta are known innocents. The type of players they are, they will both be cracking their whips in the dead thread to help us. They have no reason to lead us astray by telling us how they can give us information and then just not do it. Now we've got to do our part, by telling the dead what we want, so they can continue giving info.

The only way to do this is to not debate in circles about it, or hold it off until later like phantom wanted. But by getting a method that tells the dead what we want, and also leaves us a clear trail of "ok this is who the dead would have checked. If wolf they're going to give extra vote odd, if not-wolf even."

I won't talk about this anymore. I've said what I wanted to do. Agree with it or don't, doesn't matter to me.

Dead. Please Check Nessa

Lottie and phantom are topping my suspect list. I think that was an orchestrated double-lynch. And both of their attempts to pass it off as no big deal, with Lottie's "see it was a good exchange, because of Glorfindel!" Not going to convince me a double-lynch is a good exchange.

Also with phantom, his post on Glorfindel reeks of standard evil planning phantom. It looks like a good thing, hey Glorfindel tell us who you are and who you saved. We can know two innocents, the wolves will go after you and with all your protections, and returning from death you can give us all these extra days. Looks shiny, yes?

Come on phantom, what that post just did was lay out plainly to the wolves why Glorfindel is more powerful if he's killed. Whoever Glorfindel protected is going to be dead, and wouldn't it just be oh so great to the wolves who know who Glorfindel is now? In which event, they don't kill him, so he doesn't have the chance to go to the dead thread, bring us lots of possibly valuable info, as well as come back with 2 protections. That's the flaw in your plan for Glorfindel revealing, you are trying to pass off the assumption the wolves would automatically be forced to kill him if he's revealed. When you know as well as I do, right now Glorfindel is a normal ranger, and wolf packs can work around normal rangers (even if they didn't yesterday).

He's much more dangerous hidden, since he can come back more powerful when and if he's killed. If he's no longer hidden, you make it sound like the wolves would absolutely have to kill him, and they would not.