Game Thread: WW LXXXVI - The Halls of Mandos

[the phantom]

(Thinking out loud here....)

Are all the votes and results completely public on the Dead-Thread? In other words, we all cast votes in the open to give an extra vote as well as voting to discover a roll, and the roll is made public on the thread?

Because private voting is HUGELY different. If everything is public, then it is my opinion that the good side will take swift and total control of the Dead activities. They can coordinate their vote with the Seer dreams, making certain never to repeat anyone, meaning that essentially this village starting tomorrow will have TWO Seer dreams in every single cycle, and that there is no possible way for the Wolves to stop those dreams, and so long as Glorfindel or the Lovers survive for a bit the Living will have an absolute ton of information to work with.

Not to mention that the Dead can indirectly pass information to the Living. The rules say that the narration will reveal each person who receives the extra Dead vote that day. What if the Dead agreed to always give their extra vote to whichever person the Seer dreamed to be innocent!! If we agree to this, then we could pass every innocent dream from the dead Seer to the Living, and if the voting weight is repeated on the same person, that will be a sign that the dream from the previous night was a Wolf (or died), which also could help.

Also, plans could be made on the Dead Thread and passed up to the Living, such as, "Tell them that so-and-so is getting dreamed tonight when I dream, and if that person doesn't receive the extra vote the following day then they must be a Wolf." Are you following me with this, or am I completely off base and forgetting something obvious?

[the phantom]

Seriously, you folks who've done a lot of imagining of situations, tell me if my above post is not possible, because as I'm thinking about this thing it's sort of looking obvious that the Seer should purposefully die, as it would in fact NOT mean the end of communication between him and the Living, particularly if we can agree to the pattern of voting I proposed in which every day the village knows to trust anyone that the Dead handed an extra vote to.

The largest problem I can see is a Seer whose identity is not believed for whatever reason. That could be disaster, but I'm thinking given the players in this game I wouldn't imagine an extensive Seer-bluff over a great period of time could succeed.

Understand also that I'm not at this time proposing this!! All I wish to know now is if my limited time for thinking has caused me to misjudge the situation. IF it is determined that my thoughts are correct, then we can move on to actual discussion of options.

(Basically, I don't want anyone claiming I'm purposefully pushing something harmful in willful ignorance of some key point. I'd be an idiot to assume that said key point won't be brought to light given the makeup of this village.)

Anyway, my time is up for now. I'll be back as soon as my trip home is ended.

[Aganzir]

Okay I'm back because the plans for tonight changed.

Phantom are you keeping in mind that the seer can only dream of dead players after her death? And if she dies without revealing, there's no way the living can tell it was her. What if a dead wolf/cobbler fake reveals as the seer?

[Thinlómien]

Gah. It's too late for messing my head more with possible case scenarios and stuff like that. Sorry for not being around so much - but today happened to be a busy day and toMorrow I'll actually be quite quiet too but then I should have more to say as I will have thought about things more.

++Mänwë

He's been around and apparently able to talk but all he's said this far is banter. That does not look good in my books, no precious, not at all. Not that this is much to go on with! Good night.


edit: xed with Agan