Game Thread: WW LXXXVI - The Halls of Mandos

[Loslote]

I think this proves Shasta Icicle and The Puddingtom are packmates. Let's lynch 'em. Who's with me?

[the phantom]

Lottie- you should vote me for Rep, right away!

[Shastanis Althreduin]

If the Phantom gets a rep-vote, my head will explode. Again. That is all.

(Hi Phantom, nice of you to join us. )

[the phantom]

Yes, well, I simply had to join once I discovered that I get to make noise from beginning to end no matter what happens.

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Originally Posted by the phantom

Yes, well, I simply had to join once I discovered that I get to make noise from beginning to end no matter what happens.

I would have thought that would appeal to you.

[Glirdan]

[QUOTE=tp]Yes, well, I simply had to join once I discovered that I get to make noise from beginning to end no matter what happens[quote] and for this and this reason only I say we keep him alive......that way he can only cause headaches in one area

[the phantom]

Okay, so, here's what we know thus far....

Shasta- Seer!
Nogrod- Hunter!
Aganzir- Ordo
Glirdan- Cobbler!
Green- Ordo
Nerwen- Beren!
Lottie- Wolf!
Wilwa- Ordo
Legate- Wolf!
Lommy- Glorfindel!
Blind- Ordo
Sally- Ordo
Boro- Cobbler!
Mith- Ordo
Ang- Ordo
Fea- Ordo
Phantom- Ordo

I've never played with these three, so I'm having difficulty reading them, but we know that one is a Wolf, one is a Cobbler, and the remaining is Luthien.
elronds_daughter
Mänwe
Nessa

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Well, if you're making Nerwen Beren then I kind of obviously have to be Luthien, don't I? Which means you're wrong in at least one regard.

I love puncturing phantom's stuff.

[the phantom]

Shasta- but it's a trick! Morgoth knew we'd assume you and Nerwen were paired, so he changed it up! He's a tricky fellow.

And that's an excellent idea, Glirdan, but it wasn't what I had planned. Here's what I'm thinking-

Early on I'm going to keep my cards close, and then on Day 2 I will charge forth with great energy and force and accurately accuse all our evil-doers! To silence me they will attempt to slay me that night, but Lommy despite her dislike for me will valiantly rescue me from them! Then on Day 3 the baddies will go all out to try and get me lynched, and unfortunately several of you innocents will be swayed, and I will descend into the Dead Thread in great wrath. Once there I will continue making the same case day after day in post after post, which will make everyone hate me a bit, but that will be nothing compared to the way people feel at the end when I am proven correct and act absolutely insufferable about it.

[Boromir88]

Originally Posted by the phantom

Okay, so, here's what we know thus far....

Shasta- Seer!
Nogrod- Hunter!
Aganzir- Ordo
Glirdan- Cobbler!
Green- Ordo
Nerwen- Beren!
Lottie- Wolf!
Wilwa- Ordo
Legate- Wolf!
Lommy- Glorfindel!
Blind- Ordo
Sally- Ordo
Boro- Cobbler!
Mith- Ordo
Ang- Ordo
Fea- Ordo
Phantom- Ordo

I've never played with these three, so I'm having difficulty reading them, but we know that one is a Wolf, one is a Cobbler, and the remaining is Luthien.
elronds_daughter
Mänwe
Nessa

Shall we treat this as your pre-season picks? So you can change your mind about these picks at any time you wish and be able claim you were right. Or if you change your mind and happen to be wrong, you can always go back to your pre-season picks and claim "SEE! I told you! I had them right from the very beginning!"

Edit: crossed with Nog

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

First of all, this is going to be a bloody mess as the roles will not be revealed in death. We will actually have only two kinds of partial information for certain.

1) those killed at Night were "non-wolves" (and if the wolves decide to kill only the quiet, under-radar players at Nights, we gain little or no actual info from that).
2) those who come back from death are either a lover or the ranger aka. a goodie (and we'll lose those pretty soon anyway).

3) a player who in dying takes down another is, or rather was the Hunter– for what that's worth. Should be helpful to the Dead, anyway.
4) If anyone who looks at all cobblerish gets killed on Night One, we should definitely lynch Boro.

Originally Posted by Nogrod

And the only way to get something resembling reliable info is that which the seer can give to a lover or the ranger in Mandos - but that in turn means that the seer must die before lovers or ranger

What about this?

Originally Posted by Teh Roolz

Every Night (beginning when there are at least 3 dead), the dead people vote for one among themselves . At the end of the vote it will be revealed whether the person counts for the wolves or the innocent. (In other words, they will be told whether a fellow dead person is a wolf or not.)

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by Anguirel

I don't see it as wolf no. 1 shoring up wolf no. 2; but it does look a bit like finding a nice convenient protective elder brother...

Hahaha. That's cute. (Yes, I'm of the House of Finnwë.)

Legate talks about things in more length than seems necessary. Then again, he's always like that.

Originally Posted by Boro

So, first it's like, ok...what's the reason for the pessimism here? It's not all that different. When we make our lynch vote today, unless you've entered with known info, you're not going to know the person's role at the time you're voting. We just won't find out at the day's end, gotta wait a little longer is all.

I don't think he was being that bleak. I haven't played in a game like this before and my first thought was it's going to be a bloody mess. It makes more sense now that you explained why Nog's post rubbed you off, though (earlier it looked much more like an easy accusation).

Originally Posted by Ang

Might we want to engineer a double-lynching so that the Dead can start helping us with their deliberations earlier?

It won't be any help. They vote on the role reveals at night, anyway. If we lynch just one person today, they can start on night 3. If we do a double lynch, they still start on night 3, only there's one unknown more. We'd have to do a triple lynch today and it isn't worth it. Besides we won't get any information before one of the specials die, anyway. I think this plan smells of cobblery.

And because dead and living wolves can't communicate, I see no reason they should want one of them in Mandos. As if the dead were going to trust one another anyway.