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Ironfoot · 01-12-2011, 08:04 PM

You're getting warmer with Sauron, that is the right direction. He has something to do with it, albeit indirectly. The rings are cold, very cold. I will admit the way I worded this is a bit tricky, so I may add another stanza down the road if people need it.

Galadriel55 · 01-12-2011, 08:14 PM

Another shot in the dark - Arnor? "Older brother" of Gondor that outlasted it, thus becoming greater. The ruins of Arnorian cities are filled with shadows, and I guess you could say that the people - ie rangers - are like shadows. The Witch-King (who was corrupted by Sauron) destroyed Arnor, and "weeping masters" would be the Chieftains grieving for the loss. The "eternal art" could be a lot of things with a stretch

... It might be that it's the Reunited Kingdom that is eternal because it outlasted and will yet outlast many a thing, and "master" would be Elendil...

Ironfoot · 01-12-2011, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Galadriel55

Another shot in the dark - Arnor? "Older brother" of Gondor that outlasted it, thus becoming greater. The ruins of Arnorian cities are filled with shadows, and I guess you could say that the people - ie rangers - are like shadows. The Witch-King (who was corrupted by Sauron) destroyed Arnor, and "weeping masters" would be the Chieftains grieving for the loss. The "eternal art" could be a lot of things with a stretch

... It might be that it's the Reunited Kingdom that is eternal because it outlasted and will yet outlast many a thing, and "master" would be Elendil...

Ok, a little warmer since we're thinking locations now...but its not Arnor and Gondor. You are right about the eternal art outlasting many a thing. But which eternal art is it? This one is not as obvious.

Evisse the Blue · 01-15-2011, 05:49 AM

An obvious guess: Minas Morgul / Minas Ithil?

The 'eternal art' would then refer to Aragorn's power of healing, and so the 'brother' - Minas Tirith would 'fare better', from the end of the Third Age onwards. (while Minas Morgul would, even after Sauron's destruction, remain abandoned).

Ironfoot · 01-16-2011, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Evisse the Blue

An obvious guess: Minas Morgul / Minas Ithil?

The 'eternal art' would then refer to Aragorn's power of healing, and so the 'brother' - Minas Tirith would 'fare better', from the end of the Third Age onwards. (while Minas Morgul would, even after Sauron's destruction, remain abandoned).

That's not it, but that is an interesting way of interpreting it. Places is the correct line of thought, but these places are not as commonly named as the towers of the sun and moon. As for eternal art, there are many kinds, some mystical and others not so much.

Evisse the Blue · 01-17-2011, 01:32 PM

Old Forest?

Ironfoot · 01-17-2011, 11:08 PM

Not quite, but it is close to Eriador so you're getting warmer in that respect.

01-12-2011, 08:14 PM	#2
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,495	Another shot in the dark - Arnor? "Older brother" of Gondor that outlasted it, thus becoming greater. The ruins of Arnorian cities are filled with shadows, and I guess you could say that the people - ie rangers - are like shadows. The Witch-King (who was corrupted by Sauron) destroyed Arnor, and "weeping masters" would be the Chieftains grieving for the loss. The "eternal art" could be a lot of things with a stretch ... It might be that it's the Reunited Kingdom that is eternal because it outlasted and will yet outlast many a thing, and "master" would be Elendil... __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

01-15-2011, 05:49 AM	#4
Evisse the Blue Brightness of a Blade Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wherever I may roam Posts: 2,685	An obvious guess: Minas Morgul / Minas Ithil? The 'eternal art' would then refer to Aragorn's power of healing, and so the 'brother' - Minas Tirith would 'fare better', from the end of the Third Age onwards. (while Minas Morgul would, even after Sauron's destruction, remain abandoned). __________________ And no one was ill, and everyone was pleased, except those who had to mow the grass.

01-17-2011, 01:32 PM	#6
Evisse the Blue Brightness of a Blade Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wherever I may roam Posts: 2,685	Shot in the dark Old Forest? __________________ And no one was ill, and everyone was pleased, except those who had to mow the grass.

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01-12-2011, 08:04 PM	#1
Ironfoot Pile O'Bones Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 21	You're getting warmer with Sauron, that is the right direction. He has something to do with it, albeit indirectly. The rings are cold, very cold. I will admit the way I worded this is a bit tricky, so I may add another stanza down the road if people need it.

01-17-2011, 11:08 PM	#7
Ironfoot Pile O'Bones Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 21	Not quite, but it is close to Eriador so you're getting warmer in that respect.