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Old 11-17-2010, 11:07 PM   #9
Puddleglum
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Originally Posted by Galadriel55 View Post
That's an interesting view, Puddleglum. However, I'd say no to this because when Frodo departs from ME, it says that he could see light ahead, while Sam couldn't, and that happened withing a few hours of Frodo's departure at the most. It is most likely that the light comes from Valinor - where else from? especially since it is the light that only those on the ship can see (Frodo's ship went on the Straight Road and Sam didn't - obviously; so that is my explanation for the light).
Well, I've had wrong theories before. In this case, I'm not sure if you are recalling the sequence correctly, tho. (from "The Grey Havens")
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Slowly the ship slipped away down the long grey firth; and the light of the glass of Galadriel that Frodo bore glimmered and was lost.
And the ship went out into the High Sea and passed on into the west, until at last on a night of rain Frodo smelled a sweet fragrance on the air...
It sounds like the light you recalled may have been Sam watching Frodo msail away. Note also the "at last" suggesting that the voyage took an unspecified (but possibly long) time.
Actually, the Firth of Lune is something like 150 miles long, and would take more than a few hours for a sailing ship to traverse - just to get to the open sea - much less out onthe the High Sea.
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Originally Posted by Galadriel55 View Post
Moreover, Ar Phazaron's juorney could have been longer than, for example, a Teleri's one (when they came to visit during the good times). He went to war against the Valar, and he was not counting on a strong breeze that would carry his ships all the way to Valinor. Although the Valar didn't stop him, they didn't help him either, whereas they could've eased and speeded up the journey for those who found the Straight Road.
Quite true. The voyage (even by my theory) could have been shorter than the several months I estimated.
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