Werewolf LXXXI: Under the Misty Mountains

[Thinlómien]

That's something I did not quite expect - which is funny for like people have said he was really talking about the seer so much that you couldn't help wondering if he was him. Somebody should check what he said about people though, there shouldn't be anything that's too drastically against the truth though because then the wolves would never thave thought he coud be the seer. Ok I see Nerwen did that. Thanks - although that wasn't too enlightening!

As for the lynch, it was quite eyebrow-raising, but I'm thinking I might have done the same in Foley's place. While the chances weren't high they'd both be wolves, it seemed quite probable to me at least that one of them has to be a wolf, and that seemed like a quick way to find out... unfortunately it was a disaster.

(By the way, I had a dream there was some ww game where my role was Théoden and I got killed by the lynched hunter who had a huge spear/pole arm/ something. It was quite gross. Glad there are noi hunters in this game. )

Shall post more soon, for example look at yesterDay's stuff that happened after I left...

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Hmm hmm. Shall be back a bit later with more posting, but just for now, the initial impressions: I also think it's likely that Nog's death is related to his "leave this to the Seer, leave this to the Seer" comments; although I must also wonder, why, if it was so, did the Wolves find him worth targeting while they didn't find phantom so, who said straightaway that he was the Seer. There is of course the option that phantom is one of them, but there are also many other options, like simply that Nogrod was somehow more precise in picking the "right" and "wrong" Wolves... though from Nerwen's analysis, it does not seem like he had any clear suspects or non-suspects. Or the Wolves just really were paranoid.

As for the double-lynch yesterDay, it was certainly not a good thing in the outcome, but then again, I think back then, I wouldn't have objected much either as it seemed that there is a large chance that at least one Wolf would be lynched. Foley's reaction related to that seemed rather innocentish, she would have to be a good actor for that.

Will be back later...

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by A Little Green

It would take a ridiculously paranoid pack of elves to read #407 as a Seer hint, especially as Nog didn't behave towards me in a manner that would suggest him "knowing" I was an elf.

Er... which is pretty much what I said in that bit you're quoting.

Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

Hmm hmm. Shall be back a bit later with more posting, but just for now, the initial impressions: I also think it's likely that Nog's death is related to his "leave this to the Seer, leave this to the Seer" comments; although I must also wonder, why, if it was so, did the Wolves find him worth targeting while they didn't find phantom so, who said straightaway that he was the Seer.

Because the circumstances of phantom's reveal made it rather obviously fake.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

Because the circumstances of phantom's reveal made it rather obviously fake.

Yes, well. Though reading what Nog was saying, I am not sure how much more "subtle" his Seer-comments were. I mean, a Seer does not usually go around shouting "leave everything to the Seer". It seems to me that the only difference is, basically, that phantom said "I am the Seer", while Nog just kept talking about a Seer.

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

Yes, well. Though reading what Nog was saying, I am not sure how much more "subtle" his Seer-comments were. I mean, a Seer does not usually go around shouting "leave everything to the Seer". It seems to me that the only difference is, basically, that phantom said "I am the Seer", while Nog just kept talking about a Seer.

I know, but it could be enough to make the difference between whether the wolves think it worth killing someone or not.

[Thinlómien]

Okay comments on yesterDay...

Sally's innocence could imply phantom's innocence since he could've saved Lottie by voting Sally and he tends to protect his fellows.

Originally Posted by Nog

Rune is more composed and he's not getting mad at anyone. So should I count it as suspicious? Agreeableness sure is one of the general trademarks of the elves.

Funny you should say this because that was one of the reasons why I half-subconsciously considered him innocent. Weird.

Originally Posted by Shasta-ta-taaa

My feelings are so hurt.

Doesn't mean I don't love you anyway. I just find it difficult to trust you in ww after that one horrid game and in this game you haven't come across as particularily innocent (or particularily guilty).

Originally Posted by Shasta

Well, someone needs to drive home the point that, no, you can't have everything your way. Everyone else (except Nerwen) seems too intimidated!

Or then others just think it's better to let him live in the imaginary world inside his small head than start arguing with him since he seems pretty harmless atm...

By the way, this game has been quite lousy when it comes to voting. Everyone vote toDay, ok?

Innocent...?
Folwren - her agony yesterDay seemed genuine and innocent.
phantom - I think I know what he's up to. Score! Could be wrong though.

In re-consideration (since two of my suspects were revealed innocent)
Greenie and Legate - I still think them mostly innocent but I have started to fear they're fooling me. I don't like Legate's vote yesterDay, there's just something fishy and forced in it.
Steve and Zil - well there never was much "proof" for their innocence anyway. I'm wondering... they are both kind of slipping under my radar while giving a quite innocent impression. Will probably pay more attention to them from now on.
Rune - people questioning his innocence yesterDay made me more suspicious of him. He should be around more.

Still no clue
Shasta - this guy is an enigma.
Mira - all fish: not around much, making analyses twenty minutes before DL and all that kind of weird stuff. But I think the most probable scenario is that she's innocent and just making me suspicious as always. Far from sure though...
Kath - quite frankly, no idea even though she's been around more.
Nerwen - is actually starting to lean innocent but not so much that I'd put her to the innocent category.

Still suspicious
Celuien - and still with as few reasons as before... Gut-feeling.

Doesn't really make me happy we still have three wolves around. Well, if we lose, I blame Boro and Glirdy.


edit: xed with several, not sure which ones though...

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

I am around, but there is so much I have missed. . . . so much to read up on. I think will go back and look over the votes and then return with my thoughts.

btw it is quite ironic that Wilwa should be the victim of a double lynch.

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

I am not going to complain about the lynched, since I was not around I don't think I have too much of a right. I can definitely see why people voted for either Wilwa or Sally even though they would not have been my first choices.

Folwren shows up and goes for the double lynch, much to the annoyance of Sally. Can we blame her? I think not, we made her a representative and she made a decision that she felt was right. I know that Sally was of the opinion that she should not have used her vote at all, but I don't think that would have been any more responsible at all.

I hope I do not get in trouble for saying this. . . I mean it is all friendly and not looking for conflict, I have been told that this is the trade mark of a SoE.

[A Little Green]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

Er... which is pretty much what I said in that bit you're quoting.

I know! The difference is that you seemed to consider it as a possibility, whereas I don't - even if I was a SoE it would be so ridiculously paranoid that I don't think it would be an option.

Originally Posted by Rune

I hope I do not get in trouble for saying this. . . I mean it is all friendly and not looking for conflict, I have been told that this is the trade mark of a SoE.

Talking about ironic.. The post otherwise looked very very innocent to me, all except for the bit where you hope it doesn't look suspicious.

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

Originally Posted by A Little Green

Talking about ironic.. The post otherwise looked very very innocent to me, all except for the bit where you hope it doesn't look suspicious.

It often does, I just thought that it was funny that Nogrod and others normally suspect me when I get easily annoyed and now they think it is odd when I don't.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

I think I am slowly getting from my "I have some idea" into the "I don't have any idea"-mode. When it comes to thinking about whom to choose as a Rep, when looking through the list of players, I could think about Lommy or even about Foley again - though first I would like to hear more from her, like, whom she suspects now and so on. I am not so sure if I trust Rune enough to go with my experiment "let's see what he will do if I make him a Rep". Steve is also one possibility, I am not sure about Nerwen... originally, I had good feeling about her, now I have mostly "no feeling", but then, maybe if I saw her vote, it would be what I need to make my compass point to some more obvious direction concerning her.

I think that is one disadvantage to the Rep system; that because not all people vote every Day, you eventually sort of lose the grip of what you feel like about people who haven't been voting anybody for some time, especially if their words are generally neither that suspicious or that innocent-looking, or back and forth.

I think I will spend some time with once again reviewing and reconsidering stuff about people. I would, most of all, however, like to see people posting (especially people like Celuien, of whom I would like to learn more using this Day, or Mira, or even Kath).

[Eönwë]

The problem is that as the game wears on, I seem to be getting less and less confident about who I find innocent or guilty.

Anyway, I was going to vote Zil as rep, because I want to see more of him, but since he's already one, and I don't really want him to have too much of a supermacy over the others, I'm going to vote someone else that I wanted to see talk more.



So I'm going to vote:

++Rune

Let's see what he does with the power he so craves.