Werewolf LXXXI: Under the Misty Mountains

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by the phantom

And you ought to know that I don't let my partners die unless they have been outed by a revealed Seer. End of story. Sacrificing a teammate means surviving an extra day in order to win. My best bet has always been to not lose anyone. And heck, if you protect your partner half the village will think it's too obvious anyway, where as if you don't protect them you may well be suspected of throwing your partner under the bus. I protect my pack. Always have, always will. If Boro were still alive he'd definitely back me up on that one, having seen me work.

I'm sorry, phantom, this is just a case of "sez you". You have a nerve trying to paint yourself as a known innocent.

Originally Posted by tp

As far as clutching straws, I see that in fact I attributed a wrong post to Shasta, but actually doing so didn't completely change my attitude, as he was still definitely on the side of lynching Sally rather than Lottie.

Oh, I see. That's suspicious, but spending all Day defending a known wolf isn't? I say again: Sally and Lottie were both perfectly logical lynch-choices yesterDay.

Originally Posted by the phantom

But my points on Inzil and Legate- how are they clutching? I explained clearly my gripe with Legate- that he appeared to want his decision made for him (perhaps so he could use the excuse later "I couldn't help it"). And I also explained quite clearly that Inzil's suggestion of not voting was dangerous, and that he really didn't accuse anyone (he was too nice). And didn't I see that you suspect him too?

Yes, I do, but for different reasons.

[Nerwen]

In case I haven't made myself clear: phantom, I don't like the fact that you're talking as though you're now completely cleared by the mere fact that you let Lottie die yesterDay. Oh yes: "If I were a wolf I wouldn't do that". How many times have we all heard that one?

Your apparent obliviousness to the actual situation makes me worry about you as much, or more, than anything that happened yesterDay– it makes me feel like you're hoping to quash suspicion by sheer force of personality. Which is something you might even be able to bring off, too.

I do not say you are an Elf, mind, tp. I say that you do not currently have the luxury of sitting back and giving your impartial opinion on everyone else from the lofty height of a known innocent. Not at all.

Again: what do you now think Lottie was up to, yesterDay, and why did you appear to trust her so completely, until late in the Day?

Again: why did you claim to be the Seer?

EDIT:X'd since my last post.

[the phantom]

Okay Nerwen- you're done as far as I'm concerned. You're making no sense, and ignoring posts.

You just asked me yet another Seer question (Why did you do it, Phantom?). A question which was already answered completely and totally here. I mean, this is nothing new for me. I've done this exact thing before (in the last Rep game, in fact). If I'm faking, how are you helping the village by making it clear? If I'm the real thing, how are you helping the village by making it clear?

What you're doing can ONLY hurt this village, and I know that you know better, so I can only assume that you're not on my side. Possibly a bold SoE or maybe the newly evil Orc helper.

I shouldn't even bother talking with you any more. But because I'm a good sport-

Originally Posted by Nerwen

Again: what do you now think Lottie was up to, yesterDay, and why did you appear to trust her so completely, until late in the Day?

If you will look back at post #72 I state quite clearly that my initial demand for votes had a chance of hooking a SoE, and the manner in which I described it fit with Lottie quite nicely. To anyone who was paying attention then, they would've known that already at that time I most definitely was not assuming Lottie was an Orc.

In post #200 I explain very clearly my defense of her, saying that I am NOT declaring her innocent, but rather I am suspicious of the reasoning that so many people jumped on.

Then in post #271 I say to Lommy that out of her suspects (Lottie, Sally, and me) I thought she had gone with the correct one, though I personally believed that she was doing so for the wrong reason (i.e. the correct reason in my mind was that she'd fallen into my little stunt, while with Lommy's reasoning I still thought that someone in her crowd was using fishy reasoning against Sally/Lottie, which is why I'm especially suspicious of anyone who suspected those two but put forth Sally as the correct choice).

Originally Posted by Nerwen

If you're faking it you might be: a.) one of the SoE or b.) the Unknown Orc (having decided to take their side).

This is a very, very obvious point and again, your ignoring it does not make you look good.

But I'm not a SoE or a traitor orc, so what exactly do you want me to say about it? It's not a point that can be addressed in any way. The best I can do is point to my voting yesterday and offer that if I am a SoE then I'm a very dumb one, as at the very least I could've nabbed an innocent in the lynch alongside my packmate. What else is there to say?

But yeah, I'm pretty much writing you off at this stage. A true Orc would've looked at my Seer shout yesterday and kept their mouth shut about and just watched to see what happened. An Orc would've thought, "If he's for real then he's banking on them thinking it's a bluff. I'll keep my mouth shut, as I don't wish to out him. If he's an Orc then he's trying to mess with the night-kill and protect the Seer. I'll keep my mouth shut, as I don't wish to ruin the bluff. If he's actually a SoE then I suppose I'll just have to wait and see if he throws his weight around or leads us incorrectly and trust the real Seer will play it smart."

I just can't believe you're an Orc at this point.

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Originally Posted by Sally

And look at that, we got a wolf. Color me surprised and excited.

Which had nothing to do with Phantom - I don't know why you're attributing it to him. Every single post you've made today strikes me as wolvish, dear Sally.

Also, does anyone else notice that any time someone questions Phantom too much, he ends up thinking they're a baddie? Nerwen has made several good points about your play so far, Phantom, and if I didn't have work in five hours I'd go through and point them out (again). That's something for tomorrow, I guess.

But in answer to your intimation that I would rather Sally have been lynched yesterday than Lottie - Yes, I would have. But Lottie being evil doesn't exonerate Sally in the slightest - in fact I'm more suspicious of her now than I was - so I don't see why you brought it up.

Good night.

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

Which had nothing to do with Phantom - I don't know why you're attributing it to him. Every single post you've made today strikes me as wolvish, dear Sally.

*cough* I believe she's only made one post toDay, my treasure. It is, however, indeed quite a furry– or should I say pointy-eared– little performance.

Originally Posted by Shasta

But in answer to your intimation that I would rather Sally have been lynched yesterday than Lottie - Yes, I would have. But Lottie being evil doesn't exonerate Sally in the slightest - in fact I'm more suspicious of her now than I was - so I don't see why you brought it up.

Sally being innocent would go some way towards exonerating the phantom, though, wouldn't it? (Not entirely, however.) Could be why he's pushing it.