Prince Imrahil's elven descent - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Man-of-the-Wold · 01-11-2003, 06:03 PM

Yes, UT and Silm77 would tend to make the majority of the Elves of Lothlorien (if not Thranduil's realm) Nandorin Eldar -- that is, if one must divide the world into two mutually exclusive categories. But in a sense they were in-between, and at times JRRT would stress that aspect.

I still think it is possible to reconcile Prince Imrahil's "elvish" ancestors, with the statement elsewhere that there were only three (true) Eldar-Man unions. As follows:

1. Allow that JRRT in such matters should not be expected to be perfectly precise, and thus there there are "Eldar" and then there are Eldar. It is as much poetry as biology.

2. That the Elf-Man offspring of Silvan migrants in Belfalas were despite great beauty, simply mortal Men, whereas the three great unions represent more because of the choices bestowed on Earendil, et al., and Melian's role as ultimate foremother.

01-11-2003, 06:03 PM	#7
Man-of-the-Wold Wight Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: With Tux, dread poodle of Pinnath Galin Posts: 239	Yes, UT and Silm77 would tend to make the majority of the Elves of Lothlorien (if not Thranduil's realm) Nandorin Eldar -- that is, if one must divide the world into two mutually exclusive categories. But in a sense they were in-between, and at times JRRT would stress that aspect. I still think it is possible to reconcile Prince Imrahil's "elvish" ancestors, with the statement elsewhere that there were only three (true) Eldar-Man unions. As follows: 1. Allow that JRRT in such matters should not be expected to be perfectly precise, and thus there there are "Eldar" and then there are Eldar. It is as much poetry as biology. 2. That the Elf-Man offspring of Silvan migrants in Belfalas were despite great beauty, simply mortal Men, whereas the three great unions represent more because of the choices bestowed on Earendil, et al., and Melian's role as ultimate foremother. __________________ The hoes unrecked in the fields were flung, __ and fallen ladders in the long grass lay __ of the lush orchards; every tree there turned __ its tangled head and eyed them secretly, __ and the ears listened of the nodding grasses; __ though noontide glowed on land and leaf, __ their limbs were chilled.

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