WW LXXV: It's Always Tea Time Here

[Loslote]

Huh. Rather a strange turn of events...

Anyway. We have a bit more wiggle room now, but we still do have to kill the last wolf soon. My little list of Lottie logic:

I trust:
Me.

I mostly trust:
Shasta
Brinn
Agan

I suspect
Lommy
Nerwen

And I'll post with reasons for that grouping later toDay, but I don't have time for analysii right now, so I'll hang around for a few minutes and then be back when most everyone is asleep.

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Loslote

Huh. Rather a strange turn of events...

Anyway. We have a bit more wiggle room now, but we still do have to kill the last wolf soon. My little list of Lottie logic:

I trust:
Me.

I mostly trust:
Shasta
Brinn
Agan

I suspect
Lommy
Nerwen

And I'll post with reasons for that grouping later toDay, but I don't have time for analysii right now, so I'll hang around for a few minutes and then be back when most everyone is asleep.

...What? Did you not observe Brinniel's attempt to save Legate yesterDay?

Besides, I've read through the last couple of Days, and it looks to me like it's her– with Lommy as a runner-up.

[Nerwen]

Nerwen's suspicion list

Green
Me
Lottie

Self-explanatory.


Yellow-green
Shasta
Aganzir

Shasta voted Legate at a time when both Agan and I were viable lynches (see x-posting). Legate voted Agan when neither of them were clearly doomed, yet both were in danger– i.e. not a likely wolf-on-wolf vote. Anyway, not only is it late for such bold tactics, but voting for wolves has tend to draw suspicion this game.

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Orange
Lommy

Encouraged suspicion of yours truly in a "not-really-doing-it" kind of way; phrases it in a way that suggests she knows I'm innocent ("we will undoubtedly feel stupid whatever she turns out to be"); made weird argument against the Cursed having been found; defends Legate.


Red
Brinniel

Basically, Lommy squared: ambiguous relations with known wolves; built up suspicion on me by coolly repeating "she's evil" until everyone believed it (like I said, I just can't see that there is a case on me); again she sounds like she knows I'm innocent ("whatever her role"); keeps her hands clean in the Morsul and Mira lynches, but in a way that suggests to me she knew their roles too; Legate defends her; she attempts to save Legate.

I have to do some stuff now, but as soon as I have time I'll provide chapter and verse for all this.

At the moment, I'd say it's almost certainly one of them, and that my suspicions are split about 80-20 Brinn's way.

[Brinniel]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

...What? Did you not observe Brinniel's attempt to save Legate yesterDay?

You've gotta be kidding me, right? I made it quite clear that I had every intention of voting for you from the very beginning of the Day. Did you not get the memo?

Anyway, I'm relieved Legate was cursed because he did look awfully innocent in the first half of the game (which means I wasn't completely fooled) . YesterDay I could see some valid points against him, but even if he was climbing up my radar, there's no way I'm going to jump on a bandwagon to lynch a player I haven't gotten the chance to look at for myself. And especially not when there's a potential candidate I suspect more.

Strange that Lottie didn't die last Night...now's usually the time where it's dangerous to keep around known innocents. In any case, I'm quite alright with last Night's kill choice...this means no chance for a dumb winty lynch.

It would make sense to go back and look at everyone...just trying to figure out how I'm going to do that since tomorrow is another busy day for me. I'd have to give props to Lommy if she is a wolf...remembering her interactions with other wolves in the past, it doesn't seem likely she is one. She'd have to be extremely bold and confident in taking such risks, which is possible, but right now I'm thinking her innocent. It's also possible Shasta is a wolf, but again I still find it less likely. I don't know, what are the chances that Nogrod would set up a case against a fellow wolf at a time when he himself would probably be lynched?

So far, I'm thinking Nerwen or Agan our most likely wolves, with Nerwen on top. This case she's attempting to set up against me which seems to have a lot to do with the idea that I "saved" Legate by voting her only puts her in a worse light. I've had innocents suspect me before, and while I'd be frustrated, their suspicion feels genuine. I've also had wolves make up cases against me in a major effort to get me lynched (remember that, Agan?) and everything about it seems forced to me. Right now, I'm reminded of the latter.

Btw, I'm wondering if toDay is the best Day for our unicorn to come out of the closet. It'd be nice that if we didn't get the wolf toDay that he/she would end up killing the unicorn and possibly give us an extra Day. But if that didn't happen, then the wolf could easily make a false claim toMorrow and force the remaining players to decide who the real unicorn is...and if they got it wrong, the wolf would win. Or if we're unlucky, the cobbler could be brought back, which would be bad news.

[Loslote]

Originally Posted by Brinniel

Btw, I'm wondering if toDay is the best Day for our unicorn to come out of the closet. It'd be nice that if we didn't get the wolf toDay that he/she would end up killing the unicorn and possibly give us an extra Day. But if that didn't happen, then the wolf could easily make a false claim toMorrow and force the remaining players to decide who the real unicorn is...and if they got it wrong, the wolf would win. Or if we're unlucky, the cobbler could be brought back, which would be bad news.

I think it is. With two known innocents, the list of possible candidates will narrow down considerably. Actually, if the wolf could reveal his true role, too, that'd narrow it down even more. Oh, wolfie?

Seriously, though, I do think the time has come.

[Aganzir]

Legate's guilt makes Nerwen look much more innocent. I don't think even she would've pushed a fellow's lynching like she did, at least this late in the game...

I disagree with Brinn about the unicorn not revealing (obviously). They are such minor points, risks that have to be taken if we want to have two known innocents... I can't think what an innocent would have to gain by saying it but for a wolf it makes much more sense.

I'll have to do some reading later but currently I'm leaning on Brinn being our wolf.

[Loslote]

Originally Posted by Aganzir

Legate's guilt makes Nerwen look much more innocent. I don't think even she would've pushed a fellow's lynching like she did, at least this late in the game...

But the only other real option at the time was herself.

I disagree with Brinn about the unicorn not revealing (obviously). They are such minor points, risks that have to be taken if we want to have two known innocents... I can't think what an innocent would have to gain by saying it but for a wolf it makes much more sense.

I'll have to do some reading later but currently I'm leaning on Brinn being our wolf.

No comment at this time. But I don't think you're right. I won't say anything more right now.

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Loslote

But the only other real option at the time was herself.

And why would Wolf-me have sacrificed Legate to save myself with all the suspicion against me yesterDay?

EDIT:X'd with Lottie.

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Brinniel

You've gotta be kidding me, right? I made it quite clear that I had every intention of voting for you from the very beginning of the Day. Did you not get the memo?

And yet you waited until the last possible minute. I think you were hoping to be able to yet again keep out of the lynch of an innocent.

As for why winty was killed rather than Lottie: well, I don't know, but I suspect it's because he'd both made himself look very innocent and was a wild card in terms of voting, whereas Lottie had expressed her trust in you.

EDIT:X'd with Aganzir.

[Loslote]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

And yet you waited until the last possible minute. I think you were hoping to be able to yet again keep out of the lynch of an innocent.

Or she just really wanted to kill you over a (in her mind) unknown. As the rules stand, the last person to get the votes dies. If Shasta hadn't gotten back in time, she would've been able to kill you, her suspect, rather than Legate, who she wasn't as sure of. I would've done the same thing in her place.

As for why winty was killed rather than Lottie: well, I don't know, but I suspect it's because he'd both made himself look very innocent and was a wild card in terms of voting, whereas Lottie had expressed her trust in you.

There's a possibility, but if you take that logic a bit further, Shasta would be the wolf, not Brinn, because WW had expressed suspicion of him and I'd expressed trust.

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Loslote

Or she just really wanted to kill you over a (in her mind) unknown. As the rules stand, the last person to get the votes dies. If Shasta hadn't gotten back in time, she would've been able to kill you, her suspect, rather than Legate, who she wasn't as sure of. I would've done the same thing in her place.

Lottie, look at the pattern of her voting. It looks to me very much like she's been trying to keep her hands clean each time an innocent gets lynched.

Look, have you played with a Brinnwolf before? She's famous for her ability to slip quietly through to the end and then win the game for the evil side. Look who's talking, you say? Yes, exactly– Nerwen is paranoid about Brinniel. She makes a very dangerous wolf.

Originally Posted by Loslote

There's a possibility, but if you take that logic a bit further, Shasta would be the wolf, not Brinn, because WW had expressed suspicion of him and I'd expressed trust.

Bit there's no reason to take the logic "a bit further".

EDIT:X'd with Lottie.