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Ghost Prince of Cardolan
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 1,036
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Thanks for the responses. Here's my attempt:
'He has dwelt in the West since the days of dawn, and I have dwelt with him years uncounted; for ere the fall of Nargothrond or Gondolin [a very long time ago] I passed over the mountains [into Beleriand, over Ered Wethrin], and together through ages of the world we have fought the long defeat.' Not perfect obviously, one problem being that if this was the (imagined) meaning, Galadriel had passed into Beleriand before the founding of Nargothrond and Gondolin. However, the fall of these cities may be more notable to Galadriel as a general historical marker, so to speak, and this is very compressed history. I note also the song of Durin: 'The world was fair, the mountains tall, In Elder Days before the fall Of mighty kings in Nargothrond And Gondolin, who now beyond The Western Seas have passed away: The world was fair in Durin's Day.' I like the idea because it seems (to me) to include that Galadriel met Celeborn after Galadriel crossed the mountains, and then they basically stayed together to fight the long defeat -- the first crossing has Galadriel passing into Beleriand, the second, with Celeborn (over Eredluin), takes them into Eriador and on to Eregion. Of course I am biased (and this is what led me to my Hithlum thread) ![]() So I invite any and all opinions: acceptable enough? too far of a stretch? don't be shy if you think it needs rending -- or, if you have more alternate suggestions too. |
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Guard of the Citadel
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Oxon
Posts: 2,205
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I couldn't come up with a better explanation for this.
Sounds good to me ![]()
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Ghost Prince of Cardolan
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Back on the Helcaraxe
Posts: 733
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Works for me, too. I was thinking that Galadriel would have had to cross mountains more than once, since, if she came across the Helcaraxe, she would have needed to cross mountains to enter Doriath. Unless she decided to sink with the part of Middle-earth that went under during the War of Wrath, she would have eventually needed to cross mountains again, the Blue Mountains that are mentioned, and eventually the Misty Mountains, unless she decided to go around them to get to Lothlorien. When Galadriel says that she (or they) "passed over the mountains," it doesn't necessarily mean a single crossing or a single range. It may just mean she kept moving east until she settled in Lothlorien. And even then, she crossed back over the mountains to go to meetings of the White Council in Rivendell, then crossed them again to go home.
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