WWLXXI: Something in the Night (Attempt #2)

[wilwarin538]

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

Well I don't know it because there still could be an ordo/ordo pairing, which wouldn't completely surprise me. I just find it interesting that there were specifically enough roles (i.e. wolf, gifted) for half of the village to have one. It seems too neat for me. Or am I overanalzying?

That's how I'm thinking it too. That way everyone either has a role or is Lovers with someone who does. It just seems the most likely to me.

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by wilwarin538

That's how I'm thinking it too. That way everyone either has a role or is Lovers with someone who does. It just seems the most likely to me.

Alona, what do you think about this?

[alonariel]

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

Alona, what do you think about this?

Her comment makes sense, I guess, after my post about the lovers and her post, too.

This was what I originally posted:

Sally/Glirdan - gifted/innocent
Shasta/Alona - unknown/innocent (yeah, I know, no hard proof yet)
Morsul/Wilwa - hunter/unknown
Rikae/Izzy - innocent/unknown
Nog/Lottie - unknown/innocent
Dun/Lari - unknown/unknownprobablyinnocent

If there are ordo-ordo pairings, then they would have to either be Shasta/me, Rikae/Izzy, Nog/Lottie or Dun/Lari...which is way more confusing to think about than if we narrow it down. I think it makes the game the most fair though, giving each ordo a gifted or lupine lover. It evens things out the most, which is what Gwath would want, I assume.

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by alonariel

Her comment makes sense, I guess, after my post about the lovers and her post, too.

This was what I originally posted:

Sally/Glirdan - gifted/innocent
Shasta/Alona - unknown/innocent (yeah, I know, no hard proof yet)
Morsul/Wilwa - hunter/unknown
Rikae/Izzy - innocent/unknown
Nog/Lottie - unknown/innocent
Dun/Lari - unknown/unknownprobablyinnocent

If there are ordo-ordo pairings, then they would have to either be Shasta/me, Rikae/Izzy, Nog/Lottie or Dun/Lari...which is way more confusing to think about than if we narrow it down. I think it makes the game the most fair though, giving each ordo a gifted or lupine lover. It evens things out the most, which is what Gwath would want, I assume.

Me too, and I have some pretty compelling arguments about the situation working out like that. (Also, good point about the initial two extra lovers, Wilwa.) In fact, Nog's the bit that's confusing me. *grumbles* Blah. I need to think.


I wish Gwath was around more often to answer questions. Meh.

[wilwarin538]

Then if we go off of that it makes Nog a likely Wolf, since he "probably" isn't an ord, and since Sally has called the Ranger a "she", so he can't be gifted.

Then whoever is paired with the Ranger is an ord, I already know I am. So the last two wolves would have to be either Izzy or among the pairs of Dun/Lari and Shasta/Alona. And I'm assuming Sally's dreamt of atleast one of them.

Sally, your mystery dream is driving me nuts with curiosity, but I'm being patient cause I trust your judgement.

x'ed with a couple

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by wilwarin538

Then if we go off of that it makes Nog a likely Wolf, since he "probably" isn't an ord, and since Sally has called the Ranger a "she", so he can't be gifted.

Then whoever is paired with the Ranger is an ord, I already know I am. So the last two wolves would have to be either Izzy or among the pairs of Dun/Lari and Shasta/Alona. And I'm assuming Sally's dreamt of atleast one of them.

Sally, your mystery dream is driving me nuts with curiosity, but I'm being patient cause I trust your judgement.

Quite possibly, but I'm not sure on him yet so I'd rather not vote him toDay. He's said some things these last few posts that make me think he really is innocent.


And that's my purpose!

[wilwarin538]

Right now, I'm thinking that Nog, Izzy and Inzil are our wolves, based on a mix of gut, suspiciousness and my theory.

Originally Posted by Sally

And that's my purpose!

I can see that.

I have 1 more hour and then I need to run for a few hours (staff party, whoopie!). But I'll be back for the last few hours before DL (which is in a little less then 5 hours, right?)

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by wilwarin538

Right now, I'm thinking that Nog, Izzy and Inzil are our wolves, based on a mix of gut, suspiciousness and my theory.




I can see that.

I have 1 more hour and then I need to run for a few hours (staff party, whoopie!). But I'll be back for the last few hours before DL (which is in a little less then 5 hours, right?)

Heh. Love you too, princess.


And yes, five hours give or take.


EDIT: x'd with Nog

[wilwarin538]

Uhm. Sally I really hope you have a wolf. Cause if you do the math, we lose if we don't lynch a wolf toDay.

[wilwarin538]

Plus plus plus, in the admin thread Gwath wanted either 12 or 14 players, and he wanted a traditional lover role. I bet he got rid of that because we ended up with 12, if there had been 14 those last 2 ords not paired with a gifted or a wolf would have become the traditional Lovers.

It just makes more sense to me this way. I'm not saying I'm definitely right and that we shouldn't consider other combinations, I just think this is more likely, from a Mod's point of view.

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by wilwarin538

That's how I'm thinking it too. That way everyone either has a role or is Lovers with someone who does. It just seems the most likely to me.

That's what I though initially as well. And now as we talk about this, that was one of the reasons I suspected Lottie as she didn't look like a gifted - so I thought she could be a wolf then.

My dilemma right now is that I need to go to sleep like asap. and actually my guts say I should vote Izzy for her defence of me from Sally's "analysis" - instead of you guys who are planning to lynch me and letting the wolves win... Gah!

I mean look at this:

Originally Posted by Izzy

While I was reading Sally's rundown of Nog, sorry - but I couldn't help but laugh a little. It just seems so fabricated, and.. over the top flimsy to me. Hindsight tends to be 20/20... but condemning someone with it, is just... o.O

Why would an ordo say something like that? Or look at the detached tone of it... A wolf might wish to ease up any possible further suspicion by me (maybe some analysis I might do?) by showing that kind of understanding and good will to make me feel nice with her. (And sorry Izzy if you're innocent - with these suicidal guys you'd then be the only voice of reason here.)

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

That's what I though initially as well. And now as we talk about this, that was one of the reasons I suspected Lottie as she didn't look like a gifted - so I thought she could be a wolf then.

My dilemma right now is that I need to go to sleep like asap. and actually my guts say I should vote Izzy for her defence of me from Sally's "analysis" - instead of you guys who are planning to lynch me and letting the wolves win... Gah!

I mean look at this: Why would an ordo say something like that? Or look at the detached tone of it... A wolf might wish to ease up any possible further suspicion by me (maybe some analysis I might do?) by showing that kind of understanding and good will to make me feel nice with her. (And sorry Izzy if you're innocent - with these suicidal guys you'd then be the only voice of reason here.)

Nog, Izzy isn't the ranger, so if you need to go to bed she's a safe vote.

[Nogrod]

Sally. If you're the seer (which I hope you are - it's just your act that doesn't make you look like one), please reconsider what you've been doing the last hour or so. And I'm not talking about you suspecting me. I'm not going to say more. You should understand.


I don't know.

It's easy to see hybris (hubris in American) has taken Sally and she is blind now. But alona and Wilwa follow so nicely suit.

Of those wilwa is the seasoned one so I'd think she should be able to calm down - or to take advantage. And she is also the one who seems to press on when the going looks good for her.

So it will be wilwa or Izzy for me. Probably wilwa.

I'll think about it for a moment.

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Sally. If you're the seer (which I hope you are - it's just your act that doesn't make you look like one), please reconsider what you've been doing the last hour or so. And I'm not talking about you suspecting me. I'm not going to say more. You should understand.


I don't know.

It's easy to see hybris (hubris in American) has taken Sally and she is blind now. But alona and Wilwa follow so nicely suit.

Of those wilwa is the seasoned one so I'd think she should be able to calm down - or to take advantage. And she is also the one who seems to press on when the going looks good for her.

So it will be wilwa or Izzy for me. Probably wilwa.

I'll think about it for a moment.

Ahhhh. Okay, that's what I assumed you meant and it was a different spelling.
(Also, of course I'm the seer, you silly thing. I said I was and there'd be no reason for me to lie about it unless I was protecting the real seer. Which I'm not.)

And I do understand. The problem is that you don't understand what I'm truly doing, or at least I don't think you do. Not that I'm saying you don't know what's going on, but....well, you know how much I like to enjoy myself.


If my opinion matters, I'd prefer Izzy. I think Wilwa's probably innocent.

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

And I do understand. The problem is that you don't understand what I'm truly doing, or at least I don't think you do. Not that I'm saying you don't know what's going on, but....well, you know how much I like to enjoy myself.

Well, I'm afraid you talk of another thing I do. But well, whatever. I'm just afraid.

Originally Posted by Sally

If my opinion matters, I'd prefer Izzy. I think Wilwa's probably innocent.

I actually disagree here even if I'm suspecting Izzy as well. Wilwa looks so opportunistic to press for an interpretation I know is not true that it makes me suspect her more (for is she were a wolf that would suit her just perfectly!) - not to talk of her voting I referred to earlier.

Or are you implying Izzy is in fact a wolf?

[Nogrod]

Okay. Bedtime for me then.

If you Sally don't think it wise to reveal your dream then let's just cross our fingers there are enough ordos to vote for the wolf... YesterDay three people didn't vote and with these numbers the wolves could easily outvote us if not everybody voted.

Sorry Sally, but not a Day for nice traps. I can't stay awake for long now - and if I vote the wrong way we might lose the Day and the game as then it takes only one ordo not to vote and we can be busted.