WWLXXI: Something in the Night

[satansaloser2005]

Hey I have to be offline for a while to deal with some personal stuff. Hopefully I'll be back but if not I'll catch up and at least let my lover know my thoughts come Nightfall. Hopefully be back soon.

[Nogrod]

Okay. I went back the thread to see who were the multitude who rushed to say it was clear from the beginning which the rules were and to my surprise I only found Rikae repeating the point multiple times - and Shasta actually just agreeing on the fact that it was clear there could be wolf-innocent lover-pairs... So interesting how fact beats feeling...


But even more interestingly Rikae first says:

Originally Posted by Rikae on #21

I'm a bit confused about the lover roles myself - in fact, I'm going to take another look at the admin thread, since as I understand it the setup seems a bit lopsided in the wolves' favor, but maybe I'm misunderstanding it.

Then on her next post she says:

Originally Posted by Rikae on #22

Just went to the admin thread - so, lover roles don't mean much in game terms, then. That's what I thought, before Nog confused matters above.

And soon she's able to say:

Originally Posted by Rikae on #31

the admin thread indicates these lovers are different...

And finally:

Originally Posted by Rikae on #34

After all, the rules are there in the admin thread for all to see.

So from self-admitted confusion to underlining how the rules are out there loud and clear? It's not something I'd vote for Rikae on Day1 but a reason for caution with her already this early in the game. At least to me the rule was cleared only after Gwath's clarification in the discussion thread a few hours ago and not in the rules themselves when we started.


Anyway.


Now where's Lari?

Also Lottie and Morsul have only posted some banter - and interestingly both have posted lists of suspicions like no one else I think - and on the first hours of the game. Now that might have been for fun, it might have been to encourage discussion (as Lottie actually says explicitly). But I think it is a case to be noticed anyway - at least at this stage of D1.

I think Alonariel, Inzil and Izzy have been openly confused and inquisitive trying to find out things and I'd thus not vote anyone of them toDay as to me they feel the fairest.

I might count Wilwa among them as well, but her post #33 strikes me as something that one could interpret in different ways; the one where she talks of it being unfair against the wolves if the lovers just gave up their mates - like if they knew... or does her lover know she is a wolf? But that would be too clumsy for Wilwa - and as I agree with sportiveness in every role it makes me feel appreciating her general line of thought and thus I would hate to vote for her on that on D1.

What to say about Sally, Glirdy (may I still call you that Glirdan?) and Shasta then?

I'd hate to see Glirdy gone on D1 after he has come back to play after so many years. And actually I think he has been one of the really few who has been making a point on some people (even if an uneducated one concerning me, but anyway) while most others have just concetrated on covering their backs and not making any points on any one person in particular.

Shasta seems to end up being my usual suspect and thus I'm very reluctant to vote him just because I'm having suspicions; I could be wrong once again. Not that he has contributed a lot - but neither have most others.

Sally then is like her playful self which might indicate innocence... but what she says in here makes me a bit worried because of the insight it seems to bear with it:

Originally Posted by Sally on #29

This lover discussion could get out of hand pretty quickly. My theory is that you want your lover to live and they give you extra insight, but if you're on the opposite side from your lover you might be in deep trouble, so it's smart to be careful what you say. The lovers are just for PMing purposes and to make the game a bit more fun. At least that's my opinion.

Like it was something she had actually needed to mull over for a while? Not that I'd say Sally wouldn't be able to think that as an ordo but as that has been the only "serious" thing she has said apart from general banter and fun... well that makes me think. So is that too close for her?


Okay. Needs to think for a moment and then vote. (and read the latest meanwhile)

[Nogrod]

Excuse me Rikae. That latter quote you made inferences on wolfdom was me, not Inzil... Feel free to change your target.

EDIT: heh, I saw you had edited your post already... *Tells self: "Dont be hasty, read everything first..."*

[Morsul the Dark]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Also Lottie and Morsul have only posted some banter - and interestingly both have posted lists of suspicions like no one else I think - and on the first hours of the game. Now that might have been for fun, it might have been to encourage discussion (as Lottie actually says explicitly). But I think it is a case to be noticed anyway - at least at this stage of D1.

Okay. Needs to think for a moment and then vote. (and read the latest meanwhile)

reread my list let me quote the bottom bit;

This list is not a guilty/not guilty list merely what I'm expecting to see...

[Glirdan]

And I have returned....too more posting about the topics of the Lovers.....Why are we still debating this?? I thought everything was cleared up yet a certain butterfly of ours keeps bringing it up.....Maybe her wings are actually more furry then they appear?? That is what I am inclined to believe at this current moment, but there is still a couple of more hours for me to vote. So I shall go back and thoroughly re-read Wilwa's posts and see if I can find anything.

Oh and:

Originally Posted by Nogrod

I'd hate to see Glirdy gone on D1 after he has come back to play after so many years. And actually I think he has been one of the really few who has been making a point on some people (even if an uneducated one concerning me, but anyway) while most others have just concetrated on covering their backs and not making any points on any one person in particular.

Thank you!! Although I am not entirely without reasoning behind suspecting you. You're usual Day 1 ranting has not been brought up! That was a shock. Instead, you and Wilwa began the debates on the Lovers topic! That's really all the suspicions I have for you and definitely not near enough to vote for you at this time. As I said, I am more concerned about Wilwa and have had suspicions since earlier toDay.

I am off now to go do some homework (aka read Wilwa's posts thoroughly) and will be back shortly!

[Morsul the Dark]

Ok.... so Lottie seems to be leaving me alone...it's odd for her.

Sally randomness and such nothing surprising there

Wilwa...sadly you are on my radar...
Rikae...
Nogrod...

Wolf on Wolf on Wolf??

Lari however doesn't seem suspicious at all adding to Wilwa...

so...

++Wilwa

[wilwarin538]

Originally Posted by Rikae

Knowing the rules before acting on them is each player's responsibility, and we can all PM Gwath if unsure

That's the thing, I wasn't "unsure", it seemed quite clear to me that the only difference between these Lover roles and the traditional ones were that we don't die together, because it wasn't stated otherwise I assumed everything else was the same. I didn't feel like I needed clarification until today when I started seeing that people where understanding things differently then I expected.

Aswell I know that my Lover PMed Gwath about whether we could tell each other our roles, and since he told me his I assume that meant Gwath said it was OK. And I'll say it again, no matter what advantage that information may give the village I won't reveal it, because at the time it was told to me both him and I were under the impression that our Lover role was the priority, and therefore the information was collected under "false pretenses".

gah, I'm just gonna give up and stop talking about this. Sorry if this makes me look terrible, but I don't like the idea of winning by using information that was unfairly gained. And my thinking only about this lead me to making a random vote, which I don't enjoy doing, but there's not much I can do about that now...

x'ed with a bunch...that's just lovely...

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Shasta is having a few RL issues and is sorry he hasn't done much today. Given a day to get over it, he's sure he'll be fine. Also he's sorry for typing in third person.

Major, major suspicion of Lottie, to the point that -

++Loslote

Her vote for Wilwa after agreeing with her all Day long feels like a wolf turning on a cornered packmate. Granted, this vote relies on Wilwa being a wolf too, but more options and all that.

X'd with I don't know.

[satansaloser2005]

I'm actually far more comfortable with

++Morsul

Than any of the ladies. His tone and attitude seem way off and for him to just come in and vote like that and just change the subject (about his being confused) looks bad to me.

I has a text message. Back in a second.


EDIT: x'd with Morsul, who just further proves my point. Btw, can anyone actually read my icon? Dunno if I'm blind or if it's hard to read.

[Loslote]

*is ignoring Shasta for the time being because I may just be biased here*

But if I weren't, that wording has mucho potential for suspicion. Just sayin'.

EDIT: xed with Morsul and Sally - I can't, Sally. It's a bit too small and blurry. Translation, please?