WWLXX: At the Prison of Ice

[Shastanis Althreduin]

On Mac:

Let's document Mac's thoughts on Pitch.

#27 - "innocent feel"
#57 - Possible suspicious comment regarding the Boroversy
#112 - from "innocent" to "unsure"
#139 - has Pitch in the "I would like to avoid voting" category
#155 - flops back to "innocent"
#217 - would like to take a closer look at Pitch. Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Mnemo say the exact same thing?
#274 - uncomfortable with suspecting Pitch as others are now doing.
#313 - back to thinking Pitch innocent.
#460 - vacillates on Pitch, again finding him innocent due to Inzil's death (huh?)
#481 - still feels good about Pitch here.

This is the main reason I suspect Mac. I'm unsure how I'll feel about him once I've taken a closer look at Mac by himself, but until I manage that he's a possible vote for me.

On Boro:

Originally Posted by Boro

Even though if there are 4 of them, this is a large group of scientists, and scheming to lose a wolf on the 1st-lynch makes wolf-on-wolf less likely.

Then, later down in the same post:

Originally Posted by Boro

I'm calling yesterday Day 2, and the previous Day 1. On Day 1, Mnemo acquired 3-votes, so it is likely they all recognized she was going to be in possible danger. So, going into Day 2, even though there was no lynch, she and her buddies knew she could be a viable lynch. Therefor, I find it more likely that a wolf could have voted for her, or applied suspicion on her at some point in the day, in an attempt to make him/herself look better.

These two statements are clearly contradictory. Also, you voted for Inzil instead of Eomer, though you were more suspicious of Eomer. Now, I'll buy your reasoning (that you'd suspected Inzil for longer and hadn't been answered), but something about the way you said it doesn't sit right with me.

Originally Posted by Boro

Lommy said she was "detached." A wolf doesn't say that, plain and simple.

Absolutes like the above are very bad. You can't say for certainty that a wolf wouldn't say that.

Originally Posted by Boro

If you weren't all that suspicious of Inzil in the first place, then why jump on Nerwen's vote?

Putting words in my mouth, are you? I became suspicious of Nerwen because I thought it looked like she was trying to kill Mac. It had nothing to do with saving Inzil.

Originally Posted by Boro

Then his Day 2 vote is suspicious, not in wilwa's way, but by adding in another name to the pot a Shasta-wolf could have been hoping Mnemo would have gotten lost in the mix of names.

I was suspicious ofNerwen, so I voted for her. I don't see what's so suspicious about that.

Originally Posted by Boro

2. She disclosed details about the role. When wolves make a fake reveal how much detail do you think they want to get into? That's rhetorical, but I'll say it anyway, as little as possible.

Wrong, wrong, wrong. See my major post near the end of the day we lynched Nienna (don't know the number off the top of my head) for details.


In hindsight, what I have on Boro isn't as bad as I thought it was - mainly his contradictory statements about Mnemo and wolf-on-wolfery, and his vote for Inzil over Eomer (both innocent). Still, he's a suspect of mine.


I'm also suspicious of Wilwa, but I'm afraid that might be groupthink. I'll do my best to take a look at her as well.

[Shastanis Althreduin]

No one around but me? This never happens.

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

No one around but me? This never happens.

*waves*

But I'm not good for much right now. I've been looking over the thread and will hopefully post something a bit later.

You are not alone.

[Morsul the Dark]

Sally: (busy busy loooooong analysis yeesh...)
(For the record after this my earlier suspicion of Shasta has lessened.

Sally 79 Won't be around much fair enough.

Sally 82 Will try to vote doesn't want us to wait up though... Why? would your vote sway a tie to an innocent?

Sally 153 Wants Vote Count... not much here

Sally 169 Defends Mnem Suspects Shasta Votes Roa

Sally 218 Doing Laundry can't post

Sally 236 Again goes after Shasta and go figure too busy to post... For the record Sally I do not base my suspicio on this I myself had some recent time issues... So not suspicious because of it.. yet

Sally 278 responds to Boro makes sense to me. Don't lynch someone just to see what's inside.

A few Chatty posts... This particular bit of posting did and still does irk me somewhat says constantly no time finally found some spends it on nonsense like rhyming her name...

Sally 292 Does an analysis... I feel just to satisfy me... Mainly because It's followed up by more chatting posts...

Sally 359 List Eomer Wolf? nope... Mnem dunno... Wolf... Pitch Possible wolf hey 1 out of 3 ain't bad...

Sally 373 Again refuses to explain herself based on time... I'm sorry but at this point i begins to feel like an excuse as opposed to an inconvenience...

Sally 386 "Explanations" mostly based on feelings...

I'll call this Halftime on Sally's Analysis work on it more shortly... Brain hurts...

[Loslote]

Just noting, when I saw that Morsul had posted, my first thought was, "Wait, he's in this game?" It was quickly followed up by, "Of course he is, but he's probably innocent."

Maybe I'm passing him over too much...going from suspecting him just because I always do to not noticing him at all...potentially a problem, but now that I give it some thought, I don't think so... He's not acting like Morwolf.

[Morsul the Dark]

Sally Part 2

Sally 391 Why she'll probably vote Lottie...

Sally 396 Actually may have called this head on... I say may have because not entirely convinced on the "reveal" yet.

Sally 404 Secons the lottie vote against bandwagonning Mnem.. but no problem bandwagonning Lottie?

Sally 414 From the Wolf inside you?
Sally 422 Predicting?

Sally 431 Hmm... Defensive against our innocent Eomer...

Post 450 Promises more commentary... again...

Sally 484 Another promise of Analysis with a nonsense defense...

Sally 487 Analysis... Long Quotes short explanations girl after my own heart

493 response to Boro... gives possible strategy for wolves... but not diffenitive...

494 Busy again...

500 "Boro you know better..." after all sally you've contributed so much over the course of the... oh nevermind...

515 Sally takes on Shasta once again...

516 Dashes off again...

Part 2 done await part 3...

Seriously Sally you post too much

[Morsul the Dark]

Part 3... *sigh*

Sally 518 Discusses Lottie and Bes...

Post 524 explains why although suspecting her will save lottie for now...

You know what... for such a frequent poster Sally doesn't contribute much outside of "Not time to post"

526- no time...
528-now to analyze
529-would lynch wilwa if she's best option... No really?
534- granted sarcastic but annoys me

for the record I'm doing quick version right now because I've run out of steam on this analysis...

[Morsul the Dark]

still another page in her recent posts to go through but I have my conclusion...

Sally Posts Constantly one "Not being able to post" which in my opinion equals... I can't give away my fellow packmates but I can't just obviously avoid contributing I don't have time sounds better...

[Loslote]

Originally Posted by Shasta

Absolutes like the above are very bad. You can't say for certainty that a wolf wouldn't say that.

Actually, I think that, as a wolf, Lommy would say that. If you think about it, she's saying "Oh, well, I can't be bothered to pay attention. Someone'll have to do something to get me interested, 'cause I don't have a role to make me interested." Subtle wolfish hinting?

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Originally Posted by Loslote

Actually, I think that, as a wolf, Lommy would say that. If you think about it, she's saying "Oh, well, I can't be bothered to pay attention. Someone'll have to do something to get me interested, 'cause I don't have a role to make me interested." Subtle wolfish hinting?

Honestly, I don't think the fact that Lommy said she was "detached" is a tell either way. She could very well be a bored ordo, or she could be a wolf pretending to be a bored ordo. There's no real way of knowing.

[Loslote]

Originally Posted by Shasta

Honestly, I don't think the fact that Lommy said she was "detached" is a tell either way. She could very well be a bored ordo, or she could be a wolf pretending to be a bored ordo. There's no real way of knowing.

Point taken. However, as she repeats it again later, I'm pretty sure it's intentional.

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Originally Posted by Loslote

Point taken. However, as she repeats it again later, I'm pretty sure it's intentional.

If she's a wolf, she's hardly going to do it now.

[Macalaure]

I'm here, btw. I'm doing an analysis on Nogrod which will probably take half of the Day. I'm up to page 8/19, and it looks very inconclusive this far.