WWLXX: At the Prison of Ice

[Nogrod]

Well just two general comments first...

Looking at the number of grammatical hair-splitting one would think this is a cruise for humanists and not biologists.

There was an odd amount of voting yesterDay where people suspected two others and then decided to vote for the one they suspected less by arguments...


Mac: I'm not suspecting you that heavily (I think you were only the fourth on my list). But your seeming need to defend yourself all the time looks a bit eyebrow-raising as I don't think you're the number one candidate to be lynched toDay anyway.

Originally Posted by Mac

Careful not to suspect too many?

Well, yes... or what do you say of this?

Originally Posted by Mac

Too many people look innocent to me right now. I don't want to vote Boro, Eomer, Lottie, Roa, Bes, Shasta, Greenie, and trom, and I would like to avoid voting Mnemo, Morsul, Brinn, Pitch, Nienna, and Nerwen.

Sally and Wilwa aren't newbies to me, but apart from those, they are the two who haven't provided much. Don't like voting them for that, of course, but I would rather do that than vote any of the above.

That's only 16/19...

[A Little Green]

Originally Posted by Lommy

Can someone accuse me or get me otherwise very involved? Because I feel strangely "unattached" from this game, I'm reading it as if I wasn't playing it myself. Hmph.

You're a wolf. Satisfied?

Originally Posted by Mac

I was starting to wonder whether Lommy could be evil, but now her suspicions are almost the same as mine, which makes it difficult... unless my suspicions are completely off.

Why exactly would a Lommywolf sharing your suspicions automatically mean your suspicions are off? True, it would require a Lommywolf who has some wolf-on-wolf -suspicions, but then, we've seen that before.

Originally Posted by Nerwen, about Mnemo

I don't know what to think. Yesterday she seemed fine, and in fact I was very surprised when she became a lynch-candidate. ToDay she's apparently gone off the rails.

I don't know what to think, either. YesterDay she seemed too calculated and nice. ToDay, she's indeed "gone off the rails" (though that sounds a bit nasty, sorry Mnemo), but I can't decide if it makes her look better or worse. More confusing, at least. So: is she a wolf who realised that being reasonable and measured and agreeable gets her suspected and thus decided to change strategies? Or an ordo who's just having more fun toDay that yesterDay? Eurgh I don't know. She's still featuring in the top of my suspicion list.

Originally Posted by Boro

Possibly Shasta or Greenie, I don't like the way they both jumped on Morsul's comments about placing less faith in votes. As well as both jumping on Nogrod going after Roa's slip.

I don't think I jumped on Morsul - at least I didn't intend to - I disagreed with his point. As for Nogrod, his jumping on Roa's "slip" was downright illogical and weird so of course it drew my attention and I confess I might have jumped a bit.

Originally Posted by Boro

I would bow down to anyone and admit their awesomeness if they say they have the time to read everything (on that day) + post + vote.

A bow, please, sir. I do that every day.


EDIT: x-ed with Zil

[Nienna]

Morsul: Check out 171 for Shasta's vote reasoning... I'm analyzing him and just got to that one it might help your confusion.

[Boromir88]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Expecting a bow now...

I did it!

Hmph, then I have to think...

Originally Posted by A Little Green

A bow, please, sir. I do that every day.

It must be a Finnish thing. *Bows and admits the Finns awesomeness*

So, now that you've read everything, how much have you managed to maintain?

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Morsul -

Page 6, post 220, middle of the post.

Originally Posted by Myself

To answer Mac - I wasn't "sure" that you and Mnemo were innocent, but to my mind there was less "evidence" against either than you than there was against Inzil, who was the only other possible lynch. I didn't vote for him because you suggested it.

X'd with Pitch.

[Shastanis Althreduin]

As far as voting goes, I haven't seen anything to sway me away from Nerwen, so she's probably who (whom?) I'll be voting. I'll be here through deadline, though.

X'd with Lommy.

[Mnemosyne]

Not so much suspicious as annoying, Pitch. But it's also a tactic that's very easy for a wolf to hide behind because it can look as if you're saying more than you actually are. So not objectively wrong in and of itself, but combined with the other matters...

Yes, weak, but all the other cases I came up with last night were even weaker. Hopefully toMorrow I'll be able to start shifting my eyes elsewhere as we get more and more substance... and more knowledge of roles, and a death choice (unless, of course, we get a Ranger save). But I wanted to try to explain to myself why I was feeling odd about you yesterday, and I found more evidence for you than anyone else I looked at.

[Mnemosyne]

Lommy, I have two words for you:

Neener. Neener.

[Pitchwife]

Originally Posted by Nienna

Morsul: Check out 171 for Shasta's vote reasoning... I'm analyzing him and just got to that one it might help your confusion.

You mean this? :

Originally Posted by Shasta #171

I don't see anything on either Mnemo or Mac and I'd rather neither went.
++Inziladun
Not where I expected my vote to have to go, at all, but I don't see any more support for Nogrod, and none at all for Eomer.

Explaining why (or rather mentioning that) he didn't want to vote some others, but where's the reason for the vote he actually made?

[Nienna]

Originally Posted by Pitchwife

You mean this? :

Explaining why (or rather mentioning that) he didn't want to vote some others, but where's the reason for the vote he actually made?

I believe he was voting to save Mac and Mnemo not necessarily to kill Zil... does that make sense? ...and Shasta feel free to correct me as I'm speaking about something that might be untrue.

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Originally Posted by Nienna

I believe he was voting to save Mac and Mnemo not necessarily to kill Zil... does that make sense? ...and Shasta feel free to correct me as I'm speaking about something that might be untrue.

Correct.

++Nerwen

[A Little Green]

LEANING INNOCENT:

Boromir88 - I still have a good feeling about him.

Eomer - Seems generally innocentish and makes a lot of sense. He gives a rather calculated impression, though, and I haven't played with him often enough to know if that's a normal state of things or not.

Brinn - Leaning good.

Macalaure - Good vibes.

Thinlómien - Seems her usual flip-floppy self.


NEITHER INNOCENT NOR GUILTY, OR BOTH:

Inziladun - I don't know if it's about him being slippery or me being negligent and careless, but I can't get a read on him even though he contributes a fair deal.

Morsul - No idea.

Pitchwife - My gut says innocent, my logic says "too agreeable, too contributing without rubbing anyone the wrong way, baaaaad". I just realised (and again, may be partly due to my own unfocused reading) that while I remember him posting actively, I can't recall a single thing he's said. It isn't that he hasn't said anything, it's that he hasn't said stuff that would have been contradictory or wrong-feeling or weird or different enough to stick to my memory.

Nienna - Securely under my radar.

Nogrod - Eurgh. He was very very confusing yesterDay. His explanation about his behaviour towards Roa explained some of it. ToDay he has seemed more in his senses. I'll be watching him, but he's off the hook for now.

sally - No idea whatsoever.

Nerwen - I agree with Morsul that she's too darn reasonable. No idea what her role might be.

Bes - Under my radar.

Shasta - No idea, for some reason or another.

wilwa - Too little to go on.

tromkehra - Likewise.


WARY OF:

Mnemosyne - Argh. I think I babbled enough about her in my previous post, but let's shorten it here for clarity's sake: yesterDay she was too agreeable and calculated, toDay she seems more than a bit off.

Loslote - Confuses me a lot. Her suspicions are completely weird, but I'm trying to decide whether it's a sign of wolvery or not.

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I'm rather worried about the size of my no idea -section. I'd believe, somehow, that at this point of the game I'd have more suspicions, but I don't. I don't know why exactly that is. It's either that my wolf-spotting sucks in this game or we have wolves who are too good for me. It looks as if I'm going to vote Mnemo again. Her, at least, I'm suspicious of.


EDIT: eurgh x-ed with a host... since my previous post, actually.

[Morsul the Dark]

Lommy-1
Boro-1
Pitch-1
Mnem-1
Loslote-1
Zil-1
Nerwen-1

What if eveyone gets one vote? then what?

[wilwarin538]

For my own thinking purposes I'm re-posting the votes:
Lommy-1
Boro-1
Pitch-1
Mnem-2
Loslote-1
Zil-1
Nerwen-1

uhmm....I'm definitely gonna vote for someone on this list, cause there's no way I'm bringing a number 8 into the mix. Lommy hasn't stood out to me, Boro makes me uneasy so maybe him, Pitch too though after a quick skim through he was iffy too, Mnemo I'm fairly ok with, Lottie haven't really payed attention too, Zil I don't even know why people are suspicious of him, and Nerwen I'm good with.

So between Boro and Pitch I guess, though I'm kinda leaning towards Boro....I'm gonna wait a bit longer since I can be around at DL.

[Inziladun]

Yes, another long quote.

Originally Posted by Loslote

Okay, I'll have to vote way early. Deadline problems again...and I have no idea who to vote for.

Inzil and Mac don't look furry to me, so I don't think I'll be voting for them.

Morsul is suspicious looking, but then, I always suspect him, mostly because I can't follow his logic.

I've never played with Eomer before, but he seems to be making sense, so I don't think I'd vote for him today unless something extreme happens.

I can't get a read on Boro, despite the 'issue' yesterDay - or maybe because of it.

Brinn is another one I always suspect. This game I think she's good, which worries me...gah. Enough paranoia.

Pitchie looks suspicious, but I don't have anything solid yet. I think I will look more closely at him.

Mnemo doesn't seem furry, but I'm not anywheres near certain, and am not crossing her off the list anytime soon.

I haven't gotten much read on Nienna yet.

Nogrod is the most suspicious yet...but even he doesn't scream wolf...more like whisper it.

Not getting much from Sally, either.

Lommy seems suspicious, but I have no reason for it.

Nerwen looks good. At least, I haven't seen anything that doesn't seem genuine yet.

Bes is new. I don't know his style yet, but he does seem a tad bit off. I'll look at him later, probably not toDay.

I don't think Shasta's a wolf...but I can't quite tell.

Wilwa hasn't been around much due to RL. Understandable.

Haven't picked much up on Greenie yet, either.

Tromkehra's new, too. Can't tell very much, but his (her?) repeated posing in role kind of rankles...but not in a particularly furry way...

That turned into a list. I wasn't actually expecting that. I do lists a lot, don't I?

EDIT: xed with Shasta, Morsul, and Mnemo

So four people were 'suspicious' to her then: Morsul, who she said always looked that way; Pitch, (but nothing 'solid'); Nog, the 'most suspicious yet'; and Lommy (but 'no reason).

She noted Bes looked 'off'. In her next post, 227, Nog, Lommy and Bes looked the most 'wolvish'. Oddly, in 223 she had allowed that Bes was new, and she didn't know his style.

It looks like her suspicion of Nog was based on the way he worded a certain post, and when advised he was not a native English-speaker, she seems to have dismissed him.

And then there was the vote for Lommy with no reason given.

Conclusion: Lottie doesn't look all that good at the moment, especially the way Bes suddenly went from looking a little 'off' (with the allowance that he was new and she didn't know him), to one of her top suspects.

x'd with a host

[satansaloser2005]

Question: Is Bes in fact a guy? 'Cause I don't know. I thought she was....well, a she, but that's because his/her name was Bes. *shrugs* No idea.


EDIT: Never mind, Bes is a guy. Wow. When I'm wrong....