Tol-in-Gaurhoth LXVIII: A Full Moon Over Innsmouth

[Brinniel]

Originally Posted by Roa

That mess will definitely sort itself out. Just leave it be for now and don't risk our gifted on something you can't be sure of.

Good point. Which is precisely why we should change our focus and start to look at other players.

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Brinniel

Good point. Which is precisely why we should change our focus and start to look at other players.

What do you make of Nienna and her attempts to make out that Morsul wasn't "really" impersonating the Dreamer? Firstly she says she wasn't sure whether Morsul had actually revealed, and when I quoted the post in which he said "I'm the Dreamer", she suggests that it was just a joke (which it rather clearly wasn't).

Now, granted, Morsul seems to have a sufficiently shaky grasp of the rules that you couldn't 100% rule out him being an ordo who didn't understand what he was doing
– except, by that point he had basically confessed to being the Agent. (Whether he is that, or a wolf, remains to be seen.) I'm thinking– when a cobbler is exposed, who, besides the cobbler himself, has most reason to be dismayed?

EDIT:X'd with Lottie.

[Morsul the Dark]

wellI have to go to sleep and since I'll be working early and then off to a Real Priest to discuss wedding plans I'll have to vote now assuming, everything so far... Hakon seems the worst off in the bunch so,

++Hakon

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Morsul the Dark

wellI have to go to sleep and since I'll be working early and then off to a Real Priest to discuss wedding plans I'll have to vote now assuming, everything so far... Hakon seems the worst off in the bunch so,

++Hakon

Firstly, Morsul, let me offer my congratulations.

Secondly, let me explain something: you can't change sides in Werewolf*. If you are, in fact, the Agent, you can only win if the wolves do, full stop. Everyone knows this. There's no point saying you've had a change of heart and are now helping the village. See?





*Unless you're a Cursed, which we don't have in this game.

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

Firstly, Morsul, let me offer my congratulations.

Secondly, let me explain something: you can't change sides in Werewolf*. If you are, in fact, the Agent, you can only win if the wolves do, full stop. Everyone knows this. There's no point saying you've had a change of heart and are now helping the village. See?

I'm pretty well convinced that with the Hakon / Morsul pair we're looking at a wolf and the Agent. I still say Hakon's reveal makes absolutely no sense otherwise.

What of Nog? I thought Roa did a decent analysis of him earlier. I'm thinking back also to Nog's early swipes at Pitch, which SPM, and then Loslote picked up on.

[Morsul the Dark]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

Secondly, let me explain something: you can't change sides in Werewolf*. If you are, in fact, the Agent, you can only win if the wolves do, full stop. Everyone knows this. There's no point saying you've had a change of heart and are now helping the village. See?
.

Well then I suppose you'll ignore my Good advice as well as my bad eh? pick your poison

[Craydon1]

Well I really was hoping the supposed Priest would give me more to work with. Sigh. So I'm going to give them one more night/day to prove themselves/fall on their face. I am going to vote for Morsul because of a few things: 1) if I'm the only one that votes for him, than at least I did not contribute to the possible death of the real Priest, 2) if more do vote for him, than he dies and frankly, no one will mourn, and 3) I'm thinking that if I wanted people to not find out that I'm a wolf I would make myself clearly look like something else. There's my thoughts. Good night.
++Morsul

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Inziladun

I'm pretty well convinced that with the Hakon / Morsul pair we're looking at a wolf and the Agent. I still say Hakon's reveal makes absolutely no sense otherwise.

Likely, but I'm not ready to vote either of our Priest-claimants yet. Of the two, I should say Hakon is the more likely wolf– yet, he does have a history of doing strange, impulsive things. Meanwhile, I'm not all that keen on Wilwa's willingness to believe Morsul (see #164).

Originally Posted by Inziladun

What of Nog? I thought Roa did a decent analysis of him earlier. I'm thinking back also to Nog's early swipes at Pitch, which SPM, and then Loslote picked up on.

Hmmn. A definite possibility. (Mind you, SPM picked up on– I believe– every suspicion expressed about anyone.)

Originally Posted by Craydon1

Well I really was hoping the supposed Priest would give me more to work with. Sigh. So I'm going to give them one more night/day to prove themselves/fall on their face. I am going to vote for Morsul because of a few things: 1) if I'm the only one that votes for him, than at least I did not contribute to the possible death of the real Priest, 2) if more do vote for him, than he dies and frankly, no one will mourn, and 3) I'm thinking that if I wanted people to not find out that I'm a wolf I would make myself clearly look like something else. There's my thoughts. Good night.
++Morsul

Craydon,you're correct in assuming that that wolves do sometimes try to look like cobblers. My impression, though, is that Morsul, though evil, is also genuinely confused about the rules, to a degree that seems unlikely in the case of a wolfcub. They generally get tips from their packmates at Night.

[Brinniel]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

What do you make of Nienna and her attempts to make out that Morsul wasn't "really" impersonating the Dreamer? Firstly she says she wasn't sure whether Morsul had actually revealed, and when I quoted the post in which he said "I'm the Dreamer", she suggests that it was just a joke (which it rather clearly wasn't).

I don't know if I would see his claim as a joke, though perhaps I can see where she's coming from on the idea that maybe he's an ordo who made a severely wrong move. Considering his behaviour so far, I wouldn't be surprised if that turned out so. Though I don't know what to think about him going along with everyone's notion that he's an agent. For a moment, it makes me worry he is a wolf, but then again there is no way a wolf would act this way when there is a pack to advise him at Night. If he is the agent, that's a really hard role to take on as a newbie who knows little to nothing about the game, so I'll give him credit for even trying. Though when I think about it, when I was a newbie I had difficulty understanding immediately what the role of cobbler exactly was. Is it at all possible Morsul is confused on what the agent does which is why he's going along with it?

But anyway, back to Nienna. No, I don't find her comment about the reveal being a joke suspicious.

It's really late, so I can't stay up much longer, but I think I'll skim the thread a bit first to see if I can get a better read on everyone. I need to be up fairly early in the morning and won't be here for deadline (or rather I shouldn't be since I need to be editing...so don't tempt me), so I'll probably be voting a few hours before then.