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Nogrod · 05-09-2009, 01:34 PM

If I've counted it right the ranger should be able to cover me this Night so I'll have one more dream.

Any ideas and / or grounds as to whom it should be?

If I have time tomorrow I may check the few votings & the Eomer-wagon & stuff like that before making the decision. But at this moment I'd say it would be either Lhuna or Shasta, or then actually Brinn (if she's a wolf she's really hard to catch as she's so reasonable and if she's a known innocent she would really be an asset).

Do you feel good or bad about the choices? Should I really consider someone else, someone who would be hard to spot later fex.?

Brinniel · 05-09-2009, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Nogrod

Well Brinn, what would you say if I dream of you on the Night to come?

I'd say if you want to dream of me, go for it since I have nothing to hide.

While it can be much simpler to dream of a wolf instead, having another known innocent to trust can be just as helpful as I learned back when I was a seer and able to find wolves via process of elimination. If you're that worried about me, I'd much rather have you dream of me so that you know you can trust me rather than waste any time suspecting me come toMorrow.

Nogrod · 05-09-2009, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Brinniel

While it can be much simpler to dream of a wolf instead, having another known innocent to trust can be just as helpful as I learned back when I was a seer and able to find wolves via process of elimination.

Right. In some ways four known innocents looks very good against four unknowns (two wolves included). But then again, being able to reduce the wolves into one would be great indeed even if toMorrow would be even more quiet a Day... The chances would just be great in that case.

Thinlómien · 05-10-2009, 02:01 PM

Night5 falls

”Okay, ladies and gentlemen, this is what we do today...” started Cap Nogrod in a manner that had become habitual.
”Excuse me, Cap Nog, I'll take it from here,” Lady Sally said, smiling sweetly. ”Thanks for covering me but I'm ready to stand up for myself now.”
”What? Nonsense! You're a ringwraith!” Nogrod insisted.
”Yes, she is!” echoed many.
”No, she isn't necessarily,” said some.
”Lhuna is one,” Sally suggested.
”Yes, she is!” echoed many.
”No, she necessarily isn't,” said some.

”This is leading nowhere,” Shasta protested.
”And this doesn't make any sense,” said Eönwë.
”And Sally's nuts,” commented Nerwen.
”Everything's nuts,” corrected Nienna.
"I say we just throw Sally off a cliff and be done with it," said Wilwa.

Others agreed and they took Sally, dragged her out and took her to the rocky shores of the Isle of the Dead. She did not fight, just smiled as the stromy wind played with her hair and cloak. Then she started laughing.

"She's mad," Rune exclaimed in disgust.
"Yeah, let's just throw her off the cliff," said Brinn.
"Byebye," said Lhuna and the three of them advanced on her. She flashed a grin and jumped.

"Bye!" she cried. And then the cry transformed into a wild, ear-piercing howl. They saw Sally's body go down. They waited a few minutes. Her clothes appeared on the surface, but there was no sign of the body.

"She's a mermaid," Nogrod said rolling his eyes.
"Or something else," commented Shasta.

There was a cold wind on them, and it was exactly the same kind of cold wind that had followed ringwraith Legate's passing,

~*~

Dead
Lommy (mod) - Lady Lómiel Starbrow, the hostess – killed on Night1
Isabellkya (ordo) - lynched on Day1
Kath (ordo) - killed on Night2
Eomer of the Rohirrim (ordo) - lynched on Day2
Kent2010 (ordo) - Black Númenórean scam artist - killed on Night3
Legate of Amon Lanc (ringwraith) - rebelling Haradian King - lynched on Day3
Groin Redbeard (ordo) - Variag Warlord of Khand - modfired on Day3
Nilpaurion Felagund (ordo) - fussy courtier - killed on Night4
satansaloser2005 (ringwraith) – lynched on Day4

Alive
Nienna - pirate
Nogrod - Corsair Captain "The Cat O' Nine tails of Ethir Anduin"
Shastanis Althreduin - King of the Sea
wilwarin538 - sorceress
Nerwen - Queen of the Sea
Rune Son of Bjarne - Tivo the Sorceror
Lhunardawen - rebelling Haradian Queen
Eönwë
Brinniel

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Day5 dawns

This night there were only two of them in the salon.
"So, it has come down to just you and me," the taller one of them smiled.
"Yes, our numbers are going down fast," the other replied, looking rather grim.
"You gone by next nightfall?" the other asked cheerfully.
"Oh shut up..."

They sat there in silence, surrounded by uncomfortability.

They both felt it. They were being watched. There did not seem to be enough space for their one thoughts in their heads, daylight made things fuzzy and they could sense odd things in the dark.

"We cannot disappoint him," the shorter of the two said after a while.
"No we can't," agreed the other.
"We have to kill someone toNight yet again."
"Yes, we have to. Any preferences?"
"Yes..."

~*~

They strode along the corridors, swords unsheathed, making hardly any noise. They stopped a bit before the door of the guest they had chosen. "You go first," said the tall wraith. The other wraith nodded and took a step towards the door.

"No one goes anywhere," snarled a voice from the shadows. The two wraiths could see a figure stepping to the moonlight. She was clad in a cloak like them and holding a huge sword that was shining dangerously. The wraiths eyed each other.

"You aren't going to stop us..." they hissed.

The stranger laughed and her laugh echoed in the hallway. "My sword will stop you. You are not match for me." She swung her sword dangerously and they could see she was a magnificient swordsman. With hisses and curses, they retreated back to the shadows.

~*~

In the morning, the guests woke up, walked downstairs and met each other downstairs. No one was missing. They only started to wonder when there was no breakfast to be served. They ventured into the kitchen and were faced by a horrible sight. The body of the housekeeper lay on the floor, hacked into pieces as if in a terrible blast of frustration.

~*~

Dead
Lommy (mod) - Lady Lómiel Starbrow, the hostess – killed on Night1
Isabellkya (ordo) - lynched on Day1
Kath (ordo) – killed on Night2
Eomer of the Rohirrim (ordo) - lynched on Day2
Kent2010 (ordo) - Black Númenórean scam artist - killed on Night3
Legate of Amon Lanc (ringwraith) - rebelling Haradian King - lynched on Day3
Groin Redbeard (ordo) - Variag Warlord of Khand - modfired on Day3
Nilpaurion Felagund (ordo) - fussy courtier - killed on Night4
satansaloser2005 (ringwraith) – lynched on Day4

Alive
Nienna - pirate
Nogrod - Corsair Captain "The Cat O' Nine tails of Ethir Anduin"
Shastanis Althreduin - King of the Sea
wilwarin538 - sorceress
Nerwen - Queen of the Sea
Rune Son of Bjarne - Tivo the Sorceror
Lhunardawen - rebelling Haradian Queen
Eönwë
Brinniel

Everybody, you may discuss. Hunter, you can change your pick whenever you feel like it.

Shastanis Althreduin · 05-10-2009, 02:10 PM

I hope Nogrod dreamt me. Otherwise I was probably better off not being active and getting modkilled.

Nogrod · 05-10-2009, 03:18 PM

Sorry this took longer I expected but my modem just broke down and I had to wander here to my neighbourhood pub to make a post or two before going to sleep.

First things first.

Brinn is an ordo.

Secondly: well done ranger.

We are now 7-2 with four known innocents. Not bad at all, especially when we are probably going to see some real voting once more in the Days to come (the last two Days have given us a great result but has left a little to read afterwards as everyone has agreed).

Thridly: sorry Shasta but I thought one from the pair Brinn / Lhuna was more important to find out. You have to show us your qualities by yourself now as I'm not probably around to dream of anything toMorrow.

Nogrod · 05-10-2009, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

Otherwise I was probably better off not being active and getting modkilled.

That depends on you Shasta. You must admit that your "crusade" yesterDay looked a lot like you were trying to save Sally and to get Lhuna lynched instead with reasons you never quite managed to spell out. But as it later seemed to turn out, that there were none, your earlier assuredness looks pretty bad indeed.

But there are other candidates as well - and we should discuss all the five with equal rigor if possible.

Lhuna being one of the most urgent.

Has anyone noticed this from Day1?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lhuna on #62

It's so late her that it's early, so I'll vote in a bit. Shasta or Legate or sally? Hmm.

Now considering that the line of suspects contains two dead ringwraiths and one of the most suspicious ones for toDay one might ask the question whether it's just a coincidence.

Now either Lhuna is a wolf and played something very brave, fun and dangerous or then the baddies actually thought that a) she is not the seer (her suspicion of Legate was just good luck as the other(s), and b) if she is a hunter she'd be too dangerous to kill. So that would explain her continued living. But were she a wolf she would be alive as well.

And anyway, she got two right from three on Day1, just like that!!! And possibly she got them all right? Either way it's just fantastic. Maybe too fantastic (see guys, no "ph" this time just to avoid the philological discussion

).

Of the others we should look more closely toDay I'd say Rune and Eönwë share some nice grumpiness that I'd like to see as backing their innocence. But then again one could also interpret that as careful sowing of disbelief and looking if it would take root without looking too much like pushing it - which would be wise for a wolf.

Nienna is the one flying totally under my radar at this point. The only thing I can come up with her right now (without reading back that is) is that she looked overly careful in the beginning (like avoiding the end of the Day discussion to be safe) but after I remarked on it she was there to the end the next Day. Which an innocent could do as well to be sure.

Okay two of these five are ringwraiths, we just need to figure out which two.

Shastanis Althreduin · 05-10-2009, 04:21 PM

Well, the main reason I was campaigning on that particular platform yesterday was because everyone else dismissed it out of hand, you know.

Seriously, though, no matter what I say, I hardly think it will be listened to. After not being here for the first three days and then my abysmal performance yesterday, I feel like I deserve to be lynched.

At least if you do, you'll still have one day to find the other two ringwraiths, and you won't be wasting any more time on me.

Eönwë · 05-09-2009, 01:52 PM

First of all:

++Sally

As much as I'd like things not to be so simple (blindly following the seer), it has to be done.

Now, with our last minutes toDay I think that instead of dwelling on toDay we should start thinking about we're going to do toMorrow.

edit: x-ed with Brinn

Nogrod · 05-09-2009, 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eönwë

As much as I'd like things not to be so simple (blindly following the seer), it has to be done.

You shouldn't follow blindly a seer on a matter where he has no dream to back his opinion! With those people seers are just as susceptible to error as anyone.

Quote:

Now, I think with our last minutes toDay I think that instead of dwelling on toDay we should start thinking about we're going to do toMorrow.

Exactly. We would have had ample time to do it but it's getting a bit late right now...

But let us hear you thoughts.

And everyones.

Nogrod · 05-09-2009, 01:54 PM

I thought it was too late in the Day to try and do any listings or analysis so while waiting for someone to pop up I counted the good news for the end of the Day.

If and when we bag a wolf toDay it will be 7-2. (It looks highly likely as to top the other things Sally's last post looks so much a baddie's resignation post)

If the wolves play it safe during the Night and kill an innocent it will be 6-2 toMorrow.

But then there will be either four known innocents against four unknowns (two wolves there) eg. fifty-fifty chances - or then three known innocents, one known wolf and four unknowns (of whom one is a wolf).

If the wolves try me and fail we'll have 7-2 toMorrow. And we have either four known innocents or three + one wolf.

Not too bad I'd say.

Thinlómien · 05-09-2009, 02:00 PM

Stop posting, dear guinea pigs.

You lynched Sally and she was a ringwraith.

Night5 has now begun and you know what to do.

The narration will be posted sometime in the future...

satansaloser2005 · 05-09-2009, 01:59 PM

Oooo, this is working out even better than I planned. Well, sort of....

To my packmates: Stage One is complete. Stage Two and beyond is up to you. You know who to kill and who to save for later, so keep to our plan and all will work out. I'm sorry I couldn't stay longer, but as discussed this was hopefully for the best. Best of luck to you and the village, and may the best side win.

*cackles maniacally and rides off into the sunset*

Oh, and kudos to Nienna for knowing me better than the rest of you. Job well done, darling. I'll ship you some cookies. (Though I wouldn't eat them if I were you.)

To Shasta. Thanks so much for trying to stick up for me, but you know my heart will always belong to my darling Nilp. Besides, I'm too evil for you.

To Lhuna and Brinn. Quoth Mrs. Lovett, "Die! Die! God in Heaven, die!"

To Nog. The same, only with a giggle on the end. I loved flustering you, dear one.

And now, I die. Enjoy being pillaged, village!

~~Sally the Insufferable~~

05-09-2009, 01:34 PM	#1
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	Quadruple posting... If I've counted it right the ranger should be able to cover me this Night so I'll have one more dream. Any ideas and / or grounds as to whom it should be? If I have time tomorrow I may check the few votings & the Eomer-wagon & stuff like that before making the decision. But at this moment I'd say it would be either Lhuna or Shasta, or then actually Brinn (if she's a wolf she's really hard to catch as she's so reasonable and if she's a known innocent she would really be an asset). Do you feel good or bad about the choices? Should I really consider someone else, someone who would be hard to spot later fex.? __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet...

05-10-2009, 02:01 PM	#4
Thinlómien Shady She-Penguin Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: In a far land beyond the Sea Posts: 8,093	Night5 falls ”Okay, ladies and gentlemen, this is what we do today...” started Cap Nogrod in a manner that had become habitual. ”Excuse me, Cap Nog, I'll take it from here,” Lady Sally said, smiling sweetly. ”Thanks for covering me but I'm ready to stand up for myself now.” ”What? Nonsense! You're a ringwraith!” Nogrod insisted. ”Yes, she is!” echoed many. ”No, she isn't necessarily,” said some. ”Lhuna is one,” Sally suggested. ”Yes, she is!” echoed many. ”No, she necessarily isn't,” said some. ”This is leading nowhere,” Shasta protested. ”And this doesn't make any sense,” said Eönwë. ”And Sally's nuts,” commented Nerwen. ”Everything's nuts,” corrected Nienna. "I say we just throw Sally off a cliff and be done with it," said Wilwa. Others agreed and they took Sally, dragged her out and took her to the rocky shores of the Isle of the Dead. She did not fight, just smiled as the stromy wind played with her hair and cloak. Then she started laughing. "She's mad," Rune exclaimed in disgust. "Yeah, let's just throw her off the cliff," said Brinn. "Byebye," said Lhuna and the three of them advanced on her. She flashed a grin and jumped. "Bye!" she cried. And then the cry transformed into a wild, ear-piercing howl. They saw Sally's body go down. They waited a few minutes. Her clothes appeared on the surface, but there was no sign of the body. "She's a mermaid," Nogrod said rolling his eyes. "Or something else," commented Shasta. There was a cold wind on them, and it was exactly the same kind of cold wind that had followed ringwraith Legate's passing, ~~ Dead Lommy* (mod) - Lady Lómiel Starbrow, the hostess – killed on Night1 Isabellkya (ordo) - lynched on Day1 Kath (ordo) - killed on Night2 Eomer of the Rohirrim (ordo) - lynched on Day2 Kent2010 (ordo) - Black Númenórean scam artist - killed on Night3 Legate of Amon Lanc (ringwraith) - rebelling Haradian King - lynched on Day3 Groin Redbeard (ordo) - Variag Warlord of Khand - modfired on Day3 Nilpaurion Felagund (ordo) - fussy courtier - killed on Night4 satansaloser2005 (ringwraith) – lynched on Day4 Alive Nienna - pirate Nogrod - Corsair Captain "The Cat O' Nine tails of Ethir Anduin" Shastanis Althreduin - King of the Sea wilwarin538 - sorceress Nerwen - Queen of the Sea Rune Son of Bjarne - Tivo the Sorceror Lhunardawen - rebelling Haradian Queen Eönwë Brinniel ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Day5 dawns This night there were only two of them in the salon. "So, it has come down to just you and me," the taller one of them smiled. "Yes, our numbers are going down fast," the other replied, looking rather grim. "You gone by next nightfall?" the other asked cheerfully. "Oh shut up..." They sat there in silence, surrounded by uncomfortability. They both felt it. They were being watched. There did not seem to be enough space for their one thoughts in their heads, daylight made things fuzzy and they could sense odd things in the dark. "We cannot disappoint him," the shorter of the two said after a while. "No we can't," agreed the other. "We have to kill someone toNight yet again." "Yes, we have to. Any preferences?" "Yes..." ~~ They strode along the corridors, swords unsheathed, making hardly any noise. They stopped a bit before the door of the guest they had chosen. "You go first," said the tall wraith. The other wraith nodded and took a step towards the door. "No one goes anywhere," snarled a voice from the shadows. The two wraiths could see a figure stepping to the moonlight. She was clad in a cloak like them and holding a huge sword that was shining dangerously. The wraiths eyed each other. "You aren't going to stop us..." they hissed. The stranger laughed and her laugh echoed in the hallway. "My sword will stop you. You are not match for me." She swung her sword dangerously and they could see she was a magnificient swordsman. With hisses and curses, they retreated back to the shadows. ~~ In the morning, the guests woke up, walked downstairs and met each other downstairs. No one was missing. They only started to wonder when there was no breakfast to be served. They ventured into the kitchen and were faced by a horrible sight. The body of the housekeeper lay on the floor, hacked into pieces as if in a terrible blast of frustration. ~~ Dead Lommy* (mod) - Lady Lómiel Starbrow, the hostess – killed on Night1 Isabellkya (ordo) - lynched on Day1 Kath (ordo) – killed on Night2 Eomer of the Rohirrim (ordo) - lynched on Day2 Kent2010 (ordo) - Black Númenórean scam artist - killed on Night3 Legate of Amon Lanc (ringwraith) - rebelling Haradian King - lynched on Day3 Groin Redbeard (ordo) - Variag Warlord of Khand - modfired on Day3 Nilpaurion Felagund (ordo) - fussy courtier - killed on Night4 satansaloser2005 (ringwraith) – lynched on Day4 Alive Nienna - pirate Nogrod - Corsair Captain "The Cat O' Nine tails of Ethir Anduin" Shastanis Althreduin - King of the Sea wilwarin538 - sorceress Nerwen - Queen of the Sea Rune Son of Bjarne - Tivo the Sorceror Lhunardawen - rebelling Haradian Queen Eönwë Brinniel Everybody, you may discuss. Hunter, you can change your pick whenever you feel like it. __________________ Like the stars chase the sun, over the glowing hill I will conquer Blood is running deep, some things never sleep Double Fenris Last edited by Thinlómien; 05-10-2009 at 05:51 PM.

05-10-2009, 02:10 PM	#5
Shastanis Althreduin Werewolf Psychic Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: In fire, water, earth, and air. But mostly water. Posts: 2,832	I hope Nogrod dreamt me. Otherwise I was probably better off not being active and getting modkilled. __________________ Shasta– ... However, if he's innocent his famous clairvoyant powers must be taking the week off. Meanwhile, the Night-kills have been awfully effective– almost like we're dealing with a psychic wolf... - Nerwen, WW LXXV

05-10-2009, 04:21 PM	#8
Shastanis Althreduin Werewolf Psychic Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: In fire, water, earth, and air. But mostly water. Posts: 2,832	Well, the main reason I was campaigning on that particular platform yesterday was because everyone else dismissed it out of hand, you know. Seriously, though, no matter what I say, I hardly think it will be listened to. After not being here for the first three days and then my abysmal performance yesterday, I feel like I deserve to be lynched. At least if you do, you'll still have one day to find the other two ringwraiths, and you won't be wasting any more time on me. __________________ Shasta– ... However, if he's innocent his famous clairvoyant powers must be taking the week off. Meanwhile, the Night-kills have been awfully effective– almost like we're dealing with a psychic wolf... - Nerwen, WW LXXV

05-09-2009, 01:52 PM	#9
Eönwë Flame Imperishable Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Right here Posts: 3,928	First of all: ++Sally As much as I'd like things not to be so simple (blindly following the seer), it has to be done. Now, with our last minutes toDay I think that instead of dwelling on toDay we should start thinking about we're going to do toMorrow. edit: x-ed with Brinn __________________ Welcome to the Barrow Do-owns Forum / Such a lovely place

05-10-2009, 03:18 PM	#6
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	Sorry this took longer I expected but my modem just broke down and I had to wander here to my neighbourhood pub to make a post or two before going to sleep. First things first. Brinn is an ordo. Secondly: well done ranger. We are now 7-2 with four known innocents. Not bad at all, especially when we are probably going to see some real voting once more in the Days to come (the last two Days have given us a great result but has left a little to read afterwards as everyone has agreed). Thridly: sorry Shasta but I thought one from the pair Brinn / Lhuna was more important to find out. You have to show us your qualities by yourself now as I'm not probably around to dream of anything toMorrow. __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet...

05-09-2009, 01:54 PM	#11
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	I thought it was too late in the Day to try and do any listings or analysis so while waiting for someone to pop up I counted the good news for the end of the Day. If and when we bag a wolf toDay it will be 7-2. (It looks highly likely as to top the other things Sally's last post looks so much a baddie's resignation post) If the wolves play it safe during the Night and kill an innocent it will be 6-2 toMorrow. But then there will be either four known innocents against four unknowns (two wolves there) eg. fifty-fifty chances - or then three known innocents, one known wolf and four unknowns (of whom one is a wolf). If the wolves try me and fail we'll have 7-2 toMorrow. And we have either four known innocents or three + one wolf. Not too bad I'd say. __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet...

05-09-2009, 02:00 PM	#12
Thinlómien Shady She-Penguin Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: In a far land beyond the Sea Posts: 8,093	End of Day4 Stop posting, dear guinea pigs. You lynched Sally and she was a ringwraith. Night5 has now begun and you know what to do. The narration will be posted sometime in the future... __________________ Like the stars chase the sun, over the glowing hill I will conquer Blood is running deep, some things never sleep Double Fenris

05-09-2009, 01:59 PM	#13
satansaloser2005 The Sweetest Spoiler Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: from beneath you it giggles incessantly Posts: 5,789	Oooo, this is working out even better than I planned. Well, sort of.... To my packmates: Stage One is complete. Stage Two and beyond is up to you. You know who to kill and who to save for later, so keep to our plan and all will work out. I'm sorry I couldn't stay longer, but as discussed this was hopefully for the best. Best of luck to you and the village, and may the best side win. cackles maniacally and rides off into the sunset Oh, and kudos to Nienna for knowing me better than the rest of you. Job well done, darling. I'll ship you some cookies. (Though I wouldn't eat them if I were you.) To Shasta. Thanks so much for trying to stick up for me, but you know my heart will always belong to my darling Nilp. Besides, I'm too evil for you. To Lhuna and Brinn. Quoth Mrs. Lovett, "Die! Die! God in Heaven, die!" To Nog. The same, only with a giggle on the end. I loved flustering you, dear one. And now, I die. Enjoy being pillaged, village! ~~Sally the Insufferable~~ __________________ "My heart always cowers behind the defense of my wit." Friendship is two pals munching on a well-cooked face together. Fenris bookworm.

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