The Hunt for Gollum

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by Pitchwife

Agreed - that whole scene was a little odd indeed. The other Ranger introduces himself as Arithir, son of Ar-whatsoever (btw, should they have the royal prefix in their names?).

No, they certainly shouldn't, unless it is a forgotten cousin of Aragorn. Anyway, this guy is just horrible - what is he doing there? Apparently, all parts of Middle-Earth are full of traveling Dúnedain who have been everywhere from Rhun to Harad.

[Elmo]

Do you reckon that strange Dunedain is a spy for Sauron? Only reason he wouldn't know who his flipping chief was! Sauron didn't know about Aragorn so it is possible. Or maybe it was just simply bad plotting

[Rikae]

Well,I for one am disappointed. The one advantage amateurs have is the freedom to be original and creative, and these folks lifted every line and every shot directly from PJ. One could have gotten almost the same result by piecing together clips from LOTR, to be honest.

"By fans for fans" clearly refers to movie fans - I eagerly await something by and for book fans!

[Gwathagor]

Originally Posted by Rikae

Well,I for one am disappointed. The one advantage amateurs have is the freedom to be original and creative, and these folks lifted every line and every shot directly from PJ. One could have gotten almost the same result by piecing together clips from LOTR, to be honest.

That's exactly the same impression I got. *shakes head* Heck, I probably could have written a better script.

[Erendis]

Oh,you are all such mothers-in-law!
Yes,there were inaccuracies.
Yes,Arithir looked like the spy in "at the sign of the pancing poney"(and why wouldn't he be?)
Yes,I didn't like the Elves-coming-after-the-fight-thing too.
BUT:

All the drawbacks of these realy cute film are almost the same with PJ's.Does any of you dislike the trilogy?
Also,they might have been more original,but I sense that if they had,the film wouldn't have recieved the critics it has.Afterall,like I said in the past,films like that are a motif for the movie-only fans to search more about the books.Guess what would have happened if it turned out to be like the midieval scenes in BBC's documentaries
Come on,guys,we should be supportive!

And let us not forget it is an amateur film!
On my behalf,congratulations!

[davem]

Those disappointed in HFG may be interested in Channel 4's new drama 1066: The Battle for Middle-earth (see me post on it here http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showpos...97&postcount=1

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by Erendis

All the drawbacks of these realy cute film are almost the same with PJ's.Does any of you dislike the trilogy?

Of course. I think that's our duty

But anyway, hey, I approve of this film. *points up to previous posts* I think they were better than PJ, the only unfair advantage he had in contrary to them were some really good actors and also having the script practically written down by Tolkien himself. Who knows if PJ's script would have been any better if he wrote it all by himself (And if you take the moments where PJ changed the script in contrary to the books and showed his own initiative, one may really wonder )

But hey, thinking about it now with a bit of distance, I like the movie - especially the bag. And even the shots were pretty good, the setting, the environment, even the camera (the fainting scene). Those guys did a good job. Showing too little initiative in making it un-PJish: well, no can do. Because, who knows what would be the reception of the setting if it looked completely different from PJ's way of portraying things; one might complain "but Aragorn surely did not look like this" and stuff like that, but this way, you just take it like a prequel to the movies and know on which terms you are.

[Rikae]

Originally Posted by Erendis

All the drawbacks of these realy cute film are almost the same with PJ's.Does any of you dislike the trilogy?

You must be new around here.

Originally Posted by Lommy

I'm still wondering why Aragorn speaks Czech, though.

I'm quite sure he was speaking German!

[Tuor in Gondolin]

Originally Posted by Erendis
All the drawbacks of these realy cute film are almost the same with PJ's.Does any of you dislike the trilogy?

Liked FOTR, (except for Frodo's wimpishness)

But the other two.....Way too much tampering by PJ. When he and his girls
stick to JRRT all three movies are rather good (and scenery and
actor selection is generally excellent).

[Rumil]

Hi all,

well I got round to watching it at last,

First of all I reckon it's a magnificent achievement to put a film like this together on a budget of tuppence-hapenny and have it look so good. The crew and cast should be heartily congratulated for their hard work.

Thing I liked were, similar to PJ, the wonderful scenery - Misty Mts, Mt Doom, Woods, Mountains and Hills, the Gladden Fields etc. Gollum was spot on, I especially liked the 'bag-gambit', reminded me of Bilbo...

I came from the end of a bag, but no bag went over me

There will be some who dislike it for following the PJ approach, but I think there was no alternative really, and I quite liked the 'look' of much of the Trilogy (naturally, while muttering and spluttering about the bits PJ made up while leaving so much else out, oh and the giant Hyenas etc etc etc ).

However, there were quite a lot of 'could have done better' moments. The Random Ranger - whats that all about? Should have been a Woodman or Beorning by rights. After the Gladden Fields there was little sense of Middle Earth location. I guess it was mostly supposed to be around and about Mirkwood, the difficult thing with a solo mission is that there's little scope for exposition. Basically Aragorn gets to stare at the ground a lot and look for footprints - not so exciting. I was rather hoping for some action on the margins of Mordor (though I guess trip to Waikato was over-budget!) and a Dead Marshes scene.

The plot was overall pretty weak. Unless you know, there's little indication that Gollum has already been captured and set loose by Sauron, who's hoping to follow him to the Ring. Also there's little feeling of the epic scale of Aragorn's task, it seems as if he pops out for a bit of a stroll and comes back with Gollum a week next Tuesday. Was it just me or were Arwen's ears a bit weird?

Some extra bits I did like were the direct book quotations, the poisoned dart scene (was that plant Elanor perhaps?), Gollum thieving fish from the woodmen (although the cottage was a little too high-tech with its Rayburn grate).

Still I think the main thing is that LoTR fan movies CAN be done, high hopes for the future!

[Erendis]

Brand -new ,actually,dear Rikae!

Well,guys ,why such an attack to my words?-Yahoo!I made impression!-

Talking about the trilogy like this derives firstly from my great love for it ,since it was th reason why I read the books and secondly from the fact that it was an amateur work,made for all types of fans,not just the more sophisticated ones.
Oh,yes,Gwathagor,I crave to see an accurate trilogy too,but since nobody has so much money to waste,I 'll continue watching the trilogy.


P.S.Sorry if I sound too embarassed;it's my hormons going quite wild!

[Gwathagor]

Originally Posted by Erendis

All the drawbacks of these realy cute film are almost the same with PJ's.Does any of you dislike the trilogy?

I dislike those drawbacks.