WW LX - Mortal Men, doomed to die

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

Originally Posted by Eomer of the Rohirrim

I can't say I'm very happy about being forced to spend time with this group. Full of self-important types who couldn't begin to impart upon me knowledge of interesting things, such as Wargs - probably only keen to discuss how large a safe they need for their gold.

And silver and precious stones. . .yes, you must not forget that.

Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

What a distasteful deed, truly! The mere thought of this lady's murder in the house of her own poor father is verily freezing my blood. In my lands, those who have done something like that would have been punished in the most severe way.

But I think there is no need to truly execute such a punishment, when it comes to that... that's our purpose now, I guess.

To start, I know some of you from before - some of you I have met in courts of faraway places, or even on battlefields, either by my side or even against me - but there are quite many of you whom I know very little or not at all. Namely, the one pirate, that strange Black Númenorean artist and the sorceress are ones I have not seen before. Well, I guess it does not matter that much now - at least, I might have a kind of "fresh" view of you, unbiased by any previous encounters. And even with the others, actually - it has been a long time since I have traveled to meetings like this, so let us hope that I will be able to use both my experience with you and the rested mind to determine where the hidden killers are.

Distasteful. . .perhaps. But look how neat the cut on her throat is, absolutely magnificent, clearly done by a craftsman.

Anyways you seem optimistic about your own skills to use experience and not be baised, if only I could be as optimistic about any of us.

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Ahoy!

Hey Ho! Tally Ho!

Now just a moment there milady Kath! We don't know who you are and what you are up to, but you just think you can get away with this just stating you're a drifter to these shores and will be willing to take part in this toMorrow? ToMorrow? Why not toDay? Someone will die toDay but it should not be you, right? Well why should we not consider you with your landlubber-excuses which are just as good as nothing?

So stop the bilge no one believes in!

The tenderfoots should swallow the anchor, I say. Or if they do not realise it themselves we should keelhaul these people - or make them walk the plank - in the first instant!

Oh, you freshwater-pirates! You deserve a good flogging! Speak up and do not hide in the masses.

You know when someone has broken a rule on board and it gets public... then the captain comes and asks "who of you were the ones culpable?". What is it he faces? A wall of silence...

Those who are able to talk themselves out will get the mercy or the second chance but those who just hide behind the backs of their fellows will be punished the most severely. I do hope people here see the decency of the practise on board as we seem to be in a similar situation. A galley can't afford a traitor and neither do we.

So anyone not wishing to stand up for her or himself for good or try to help us out in earnest should kiss the gunner's daughter before the sun sets. That's only fair.

Handsomely now, men! No quarter!

The New Improved Nogrod: Same old tune, now with pirate sound!

EDIT: Cross posted with Nogrod

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

AI will vote for a "non-participant" toDay - and will call for others to do so as well - unless there is a very good case against someone else. The last game was proof enough...

Ha, oh how I was missing that!

All right, well, to state plainly what is on my mind. It seems that some discussion is already starting to roll, which is good. I will be probably going to leave now, but I will be back later (after some rest) and then, there should be, I guess, already a few more people who spoke up by then, so I can start to make a picture: and I may post some of my first impressions in general.

Originally Posted by Rune Son of Bjarne

Anyways you seem optimistic about your own skills to use experience and not be baised, if only I could be as optimistic about any of us.

Ah yes, actually I am optimistic, really. Well, or at least in a rather optimistic mood, despite the disgusting abovementioned deed that took place here. My mind still feels rather clear and light, possibly because it is after a really long time that I have to rack my brain with situation like this. Well, it would be nice if it stayed even into the further Days. (In case it is positive, of course. I have not yet tested what is its actual practical outcome )

[Nienna]

Ahoy!

I'm merely stopping in to say that I am here for a little bit. I will be back later when hopefully more discussions have taken place. I have no real inclinations so far as it is Day one.

I'm off to swab the deck and will be back in a while.

Gar.

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Nienna

Ahoy!

I'm merely stopping in to say that I am here for a little bit. I will be back later when hopefully more discussions have taken place. I have no real inclinations so far as it is Day one.

Now just think if everyone was like you.

"I'm merely saying I'm here... I'll be back when there has been some discussion".

Now who do you think should have made the discussion if people were like you? Some others, right? But not you.

So you think you can be a parasite who only watches "some others" to discuss it so that you can vote one of the discussers.

Why don't you start the discussion - or take part in it? How about everyone behaved like you?

There would be nothing to say.

But then it seems that people lynch one of those who have actually tried to make a difference. And that's understandable as if someone just pops in to say that s/he has nothing to say, it's a hard time to come up with a reason to vote that one person from among many who has said nothing - but it is easy to vote for someone who has actually made some points (as you can disagree with points while you can't disagree with "hi there, let's get the baddies").

So why should we think that you - as you have decided to just hang around - should live after Day1 and those who actually play this game and make your "hanging around" possible in the first place (you can't hang around unless there is something to hang around to) should be the ones from whom we decide who to lynch?

This needs to change.

This really needs to change.

EDIT: X'd with Eomer and Rune

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

While Nogrod is undoubtedly a zealot, his principles are not obviously faulty, even if they do lead him to strange conclusions. Par for the course for zealots, I suppose.

It strikes me as not at all surprising, though, that such 'great' and 'notable' persons will hide when the big decisions have to be made. I don't know what our hostess was playing at. Not only has she, without doubt, led many of us to our graves; she has also provided us with miserably mismatched fellowship in the graveyard.

Humbug to her.

I will likely vote for someone who is deliberately subverting others to his cause: the need to make friends is senseless in itself, and can only point to a darker motive.

'Til later.

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Eomer of the Rohirrim

While Nogrod is undoubtedly a zealot, his principles are not obviously faulty

Oh your wisdom...
*bows in awe*

Love you Eomer, you're assesment is not obviously faulty...

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Have we got a bilge rat of a Nogrod picking fights and causing dissension? I'll have you keelhauled, just you wait, if you keep this up.

[Nienna]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Now just think if everyone was like you.

...the world would be a much safer place.

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Now who do you think should have made the discussion if people were like you? Some others, right? But not you.

I did not say that I would not make a discussion but that I could not make a discussion at the time. I had plans that I was off to complete but thought I should post first just to let people know that I was around and playing. I figured that that was a function first post but I guess that I was wrong. I did not have anything substantial to say so I didn't pretend that I did just to seem to make a discussion. It seems that on Day One many people post a lot of stuff without really saying anything. I was trying to avoid doing that.

Originally Posted by Nogrod

So why should we think that you - as you have decided to just hang around - should live after Day1 and those who actually play this game and make your "hanging around" possible in the first place (you can't hang around unless there is something to hang around to) should be the ones from whom we decide who to lynch?

My goal in this game is not to just hang around. I really do want to make a difference. I was just hanging around before because there was nothing else to do. If I really thought that I had something substantial to contribute I wouldn't hold back just because I thought it was funny. I would post to let people know what I think.

Right now I think that I'm being a bit defensive and I'm sorry. I do not want to seem like I'm not contributing and I don't want to be lynched just because I'm not saying lots of nothing. I'm perfectly capable of saying a lot without really saying anything (I am a college student after all) but I thought that that would be a waste of everyone's time.

Anyway... I am in dreadful need of sleep but I will be around for at least a part of the end of the day. It is my Sunday and I need to catch up on school work but I will do my best.

Edit: x-ed with Sally

[Brinniel]

Nogrod should probably just vote me now because I can promise that toDay my participation will be to a minimum...

I never have much to say on Day 1, and when I do it's usually at the very end of the Day. Which isn't very helpful since I won't be around in the last few hours; I won't even be around for the last 12 hours. My apologies, but RL is keeping me busy. Anyway, that means it's gonna be a random vote from me toDay. I don't know how I can possibly feel one way or another towards someone so early into the first Day. My first impressions are always off...

I'll lurk around for another hour or so and see if I can get any sort of hunches that could lead to a vote aside from randomness, but then it's off to bed. I would save my vote for morning...but I must be up early and can't be late like I usually am when I play WW.

[Brinniel]

Aand no one's posted. Typical.

I won't vote Lhuna or Groin since they haven't played in awhile.

I won't vote Nogrod because I feel bad I keep killing him and I won't vote Legate because he seems to die in the first Days and Nights a lot lately and I won't vote Nienna because she got axed Day 1 last game.

Everyone else shall be victim to my randomness. Crap, I really hate doing this but I suppose it's better than no vote at all. Either way someone's gonna hate me for it.

Hmmm....

++Sally

Meh, she won't mind too much (err...or at least I hope not).

Yeah, I'm sure now if I don't get lynched, I'll probably be eaten as a no trail kill. Serves me right. While I can't promise tons of posts during this game, I'll certainly do everything I can to do better than toDay should I survive.

Anyway, I can't hold off any longer; I'm only getting 4 1/2 hours of sleep as it is. I might be able to pop in briefly once I wake, but I can't be sure.

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

Originally Posted by Lhunardawen

Noisy and abrasive. Typical Nogrod. As I remember him, anyway. Not much reason to be worried about him now, but obviously bears watching.

Funny because I think Nogrod seems more agressive than normally. . .He says the same as usual, but the way he say it seems more agressive.

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

Cap'n Nog's being a bit of a brute, and I'm not sure I like it. Is he still paranoid from his last voyage or does he have darker motives for being so accusatory?

Rune has picked up on this behavior, and for now I think he'll be allowed to stay, if only because he's very astute and I think he can bring order to this mess.

I doubt I can bring order to anything, infact I am often described as a mess my self.

[Nogrod]

Those who are going to get my vote if their status is as it is now in the end of this Day1. No problem if you make your mark later and just haven't been able to post at this point of the Day. It's not time-zone related but a general principle: before the Day ends everyone needs to take part. If not, you're my first choice.

Nienna
Isabellkya
Nerwen
Nilpaurion Felagund
Lhunardawen
Groin Redbeard
satansaloser2005
Eönwë
Brinniel


Because of the way they have posted I'm a bit worried about (subject to change if / when they post more):

Kath
Shastanis Althreduin
wilwarin538
Rune Son of Bjarne


For different reasons I suspect:

Kent2010
Eomer of the Rohirrim


I'm about to think innocent so far:

Legate of Amon Lanc


Hopefully you give me reasons to change and upgrade my list before the Day is over.

As I said, I will promote lynching the "submarines" first. But if everyone is actually playing, then I will move to the actual suspicions... unless there is a really good case against someone which would overrule any blind vote for the "under the Reindeer" -people.

Off to sleep now. See you later toDay.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

So: Nogrod's suspicious of those who have posted (apparently because they have posted), and will probably vote for any one of those who have not yet posted (because they've not posted).

Oh, apart from Legate, his fellow loquacious ringleader.

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

Hey Nogrod, you might as well say nothing at all. Your contribution so far has only offered a little more than those completely silent, you say the same things as you always do on day one. . .since you say the same all the time it is difficult to judge you by it. So basicly what you are doing is hiding in plain sight.

If you keep this up I will have to vote for you today and if you say something completely unpredictable, then it is clearly a change of tactics from a bad guy. . .so either way I will have to vote for you.

Notice: The last part was obviously in jest.

Anyways I shall leave you shall see you tomorrow
(If you insist on using "tomorrow" and "today" in connection with the games night and day face then you should be in game all the time when posting and not speak about "the game", because then we go meta and that is just silly)

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Rune Son of Bjarne

Hey Nogrod, you might as well say nothing at all. Your contribution so far has only offered a little more than those completely silent, you say the same things as you always do on day one. . .since you say the same all the time it is difficult to judge you by it. So basicly what you are doing is hiding in plain sight.

If you keep this up I will have to vote for you today

Interesting you don't feel the need to say the same about Wilwa (never says anything on Day1), Kath (always excuses herself from Day1) or anyone else being like they are in most of the games they're in...

So are you a wolf who thinks I would be a nice trophy-lynch on Day1? Yes, I have posted some actual suspicions and possibly irritated some people by suspecting them. I may be wrong with some of them, maybe with many of them.

But retaliation is seldom a way to win this game - for the goodies.

To win the game we need to suspect and suspect and to suspect. Some of those people we suspect are able to turn around our suspicions and make us feel more comfortable with them, creating trust; and on the best occasions we catch some with their pants on their knees...

But it takes suspicions to get there.

The wolves rub you nicely. Remember that.

But you're right in one thing: I should try once saying nothing at all. Maybe all of the people who actually "say something" should hold their tongues in one game just to prove the point what a game without "talkers" would be. You could just roll dices for your sorry fun...