WWLVIII: Escape From Angband (or Behavioral Modification) - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Mithalwen · 03-27-2009, 01:06 PM

How many Phantoms does it take to change a light bulb?

One: He holds the bulb, and the world spins around him.

Mithalwen · 03-27-2009, 01:08 PM

Q: How many philosophers does it take to change a lightbulb ?

A: Define "lightbulb".....

Mithalwen · 03-27-2009, 01:10 PM

Q: How many Lunatics does it take to change a light bulb?
A: Two, one to change the light bulb and the other to tell him to make sure he sticks his fingers in the socket first, to see if the electricity is switched on.

Mithalwen · 03-27-2009, 01:24 PM

Q: How many mathematicians does it take to screw in a light bulb?

A''': In an earlier article, X writes:

Q: How many mathematicians does it take to screw in a light bulb?

A: One. He gives it a philosopher, thereby reducing the problem to an earlier joke...

In earlier work, Wiener [1] has shown that one mathematician can change a light bulb.

If k mathematicians can change a light bulb, and if one more simply watches them do it, then k+1 mathematicians will have changed the light bulb.

Therefore, by induction, for all n in the positive integers, n mathematicians can change a light bulb.

Bibliography:

[1] Wiener, Matthew P., <11485@ucbvax>, Re: YALBJ, 1986

Nilpaurion Felagund · 03-28-2009, 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mithalwen

Q: How many Lunatics does it take to change a light bulb?
A: Two, one to change the light bulb and the other to tell him to make sure he sticks his fingers in the socket first, to see if the electricity is switched on.

Despite being this bloke's mother, you're quite all right.

So I guess you're one of those I don't want lynched toDAY.

Q: How many arms does Nilp need to change a light bulb?

A: Three, one to change the light bulb, one to try to stab him while he does this, and one to stop the other arm from stabbing him.

Mnemosyne · 03-28-2009, 10:36 PM

Ai, Nilp, how can you bear this solitude?

*hunkers down next to the campfire and amuses self by attempting to count and psychoanalyze all of his personalities*

Nilpaurion Felagund · 03-28-2009, 10:51 PM

By posting every thirty minutes, of course.

Out! out! I thought you put me in charge?

If you wish to count us there is this, but if you wish to psychoanalyse us I'm afraid I can't help you.

Mnemosyne · 03-28-2009, 10:56 PM

I'm almost considering modfiring everyone but Nilp for not being online to entertain me, but considering that I'd modfire Nog if he were online and losing sleep that'd be rather rude.

Plus Sally would probably kill me. You know how it goes, the master of the house leaves for the weekend and the butler breaks out the best of the house's wine and sells it to the nearest drunks...

I suppose with so many of you around it's hard to get lonely, Nilp.

Durelin · 03-28-2009, 11:13 PM

Well, once again, whatever happened...that was nice. We're in a lot better position than I thought we would be. As in, we're not all but doomed.

Apologies to Mac... ><

So for some reason I got a PM at the start of toDay telling me that there are 2 wolves toDay. Which I thought would have been pretty obvious. I'm wondering if this suggests that the numbers can still change? Or our lovely mods are just being consistent.

So one of the many things I am confused about at this point - why did Izzy call herself the "seer tracker" but she turns up as the "seer's apprentice"? I know I'm being a bit nit-picky (maybe more than a bit, whatevs), but "tracker" is hardly a synonym for "apprentice" or something. Perhaps she just didn't want to reveal all about her role?

Her being the "seer's apprentice" suggests to me that she was indeed on our side. It seems more specific than "seer tracker", and the possibility of her being able to communicate with the seer makes sense then. So likely she was telling the truth about Nilp. Though he could certainly be another cobbler.

Why was Izzy killed (I assume by the wolves)? Yadda yadda. I'd guess because the wolves wanted to take out someone who was generally considered innocent but who they were sure to be able to kill without consequences.

Probably not wolves, in order of surety:
Lari if her hunter claim is to be believed. I rather thought the wolves would go after her tonight as with 3 left and a good day yesterDay they'd be in pretty good shape to risk it. But...
Nilp per Izzy...maybe a cobbler

Possibly wolves:
Nogrod
Fea
Mith...she is/was the "phantom's apprentice". We don't know if gifteds can be turned...with the number of gifteds in this game maybe, but *shrug*. I am wondering why she's still alive. Are the wolves afraid they will fail to kill her again? We still know nothing about her role except the name of it and the vague things she has claimed to have done, such as "delivering ducks". I can't help but be bothered by that.

4 against 2...with possibly a cobbler around...this is going to be a long Day.

To bed...

Durelin · 03-28-2009, 11:15 PM

So, Nilp...could one of you be a wolf?

Mithalwen · 03-29-2009, 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Durelin

Mith...she is/was the "phantom's apprentice". We don't know if gifteds can be turned...with the number of gifteds in this game maybe, but *shrug*. I am wondering why she's still alive. Are the wolves afraid they will fail to kill her again? We still know nothing about her role except the name of it and the vague things she has claimed to have done, such as "delivering ducks". I can't help but be bothered by that.

Depends what you mean by turned. I have worked my bits off for the innocents and after seeing what went on after I left yesterday I am beginning to think the ducks deserve the win if ordos seek to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory and wilfully risk modfire. I am ceratinly not inclined to waste much time here today...I nearly didn't bother to come in at all. Currently I am somewhat ambivalent...

Mnemosyne · 03-27-2009, 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mithalwen

How many Phantoms does it take to change a light bulb?

One: He holds the bulb, and the world spins around him.

But what if it spins the wrong way?

Mithalwen · 03-27-2009, 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mnemosyne

But what if it spins the wrong way?

We'll go back in time and the old bulb would be ok....

Q How many Modesses does it take to take a lightbulb?

A That's for them to know and us to find out....

Mithalwen · 03-27-2009, 01:30 PM

Q How many surrealists does it take to change a light bulb?

A Fish

Mithalwen · 03-27-2009, 01:57 PM

Don't suppose anyone plays the viola now?

the phantom · 03-27-2009, 02:13 PM

Dury's mom plays the viola.

Mithalwen · 03-27-2009, 02:19 PM

My lord and master! Any instructions for your minion?

03-27-2009, 01:06 PM	#1
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,460	Pour amuser Sally How many Phantoms does it take to change a light bulb? One: He holds the bulb, and the world spins around him. __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

03-27-2009, 01:08 PM	#2
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,460	One for Nogrod Q: How many philosophers does it take to change a lightbulb ? A: Define "lightbulb"..... __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

03-27-2009, 01:10 PM	#3
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,460	For dear crazy Nilp Q: How many Lunatics does it take to change a light bulb? A: Two, one to change the light bulb and the other to tell him to make sure he sticks his fingers in the socket first, to see if the electricity is switched on. __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

03-27-2009, 01:24 PM	#4
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,460	For Mac Q: How many mathematicians does it take to screw in a light bulb? A''': In an earlier article, X writes: Q: How many mathematicians does it take to screw in a light bulb? A: One. He gives it a philosopher, thereby reducing the problem to an earlier joke... In earlier work, Wiener [1] has shown that one mathematician can change a light bulb. If k mathematicians can change a light bulb, and if one more simply watches them do it, then k+1 mathematicians will have changed the light bulb. Therefore, by induction, for all n in the positive integers, n mathematicians can change a light bulb. Bibliography: [1] Wiener, Matthew P., <11485@ucbvax>, Re: YALBJ, 1986 __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

03-28-2009, 10:36 PM	#6
Mnemosyne Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Between the past and the future Posts: 1,159	Ai, Nilp, how can you bear this solitude? hunkers down next to the campfire and amuses self by attempting to count and psychoanalyze all of his personalities __________________ Got corsets?

03-28-2009, 10:51 PM	#7
Nilpaurion Felagund Scion of The Faithful Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The brink, where hope and despair are akin. [The Philippines] Posts: 5,312	Out to lunch after this one. By posting every thirty minutes, of course. Out! out! I thought you put me in charge? If you wish to count us there is this, but if you wish to psychoanalyse us I'm afraid I can't help you. __________________ フェンリス鴨 (Fenrisu Kamo) The plot, cut, defeated. I intend to copy this sig forever - so far so good...

03-28-2009, 10:56 PM	#8
Mnemosyne Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Between the past and the future Posts: 1,159	I'm almost considering modfiring everyone but Nilp for not being online to entertain me, but considering that I'd modfire Nog if he were online and losing sleep that'd be rather rude. Plus Sally would probably kill me. You know how it goes, the master of the house leaves for the weekend and the butler breaks out the best of the house's wine and sells it to the nearest drunks... I suppose with so many of you around it's hard to get lonely, Nilp. __________________ Got corsets?

03-28-2009, 11:13 PM	#9
Durelin Estelo dagnir, Melo ring Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,063	Well, once again, whatever happened...that was nice. We're in a lot better position than I thought we would be. As in, we're not all but doomed. Apologies to Mac... >< So for some reason I got a PM at the start of toDay telling me that there are 2 wolves toDay. Which I thought would have been pretty obvious. I'm wondering if this suggests that the numbers can still change? Or our lovely mods are just being consistent. So one of the many things I am confused about at this point - why did Izzy call herself the "seer tracker" but she turns up as the "seer's apprentice"? I know I'm being a bit nit-picky (maybe more than a bit, whatevs), but "tracker" is hardly a synonym for "apprentice" or something. Perhaps she just didn't want to reveal all about her role? Her being the "seer's apprentice" suggests to me that she was indeed on our side. It seems more specific than "seer tracker", and the possibility of her being able to communicate with the seer makes sense then. So likely she was telling the truth about Nilp. Though he could certainly be another cobbler. Why was Izzy killed (I assume by the wolves)? Yadda yadda. I'd guess because the wolves wanted to take out someone who was generally considered innocent but who they were sure to be able to kill without consequences. Probably not wolves, in order of surety: Lari if her hunter claim is to be believed. I rather thought the wolves would go after her tonight as with 3 left and a good day yesterDay they'd be in pretty good shape to risk it. But... Nilp per Izzy...maybe a cobbler Possibly wolves: Nogrod Fea Mith...she is/was the "phantom's apprentice". We don't know if gifteds can be turned...with the number of gifteds in this game maybe, but shrug. I am wondering why she's still alive. Are the wolves afraid they will fail to kill her again? We still know nothing about her role except the name of it and the vague things she has claimed to have done, such as "delivering ducks". I can't help but be bothered by that. 4 against 2...with possibly a cobbler around...this is going to be a long Day. To bed...

03-28-2009, 11:15 PM	#10
Durelin Estelo dagnir, Melo ring Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,063	So, Nilp...could one of you be a wolf?

03-27-2009, 01:30 PM	#14
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,460	For Fea Q How many surrealists does it take to change a light bulb? A Fish __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

03-27-2009, 01:57 PM	#15
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,460	Don't suppose anyone plays the viola now? __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

03-27-2009, 02:13 PM	#16
the phantom Beloved Shadow Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Stadium Posts: 5,971	Dury's mom plays the viola. __________________ the phantom has posted. This thread is now important.

03-27-2009, 02:19 PM	#17
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,460	My lord and master! Any instructions for your minion? __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

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