WWLVIII: Escape From Angband (or Behavioral Modification)

[Isabellkya]

Oi. As much as some of you are thinking and stating - I'm not confused. Well, I'm only confused at the how and why you think I'm confused.

I have to agree with Rikae on this one part.
After Lommy was lynched Duck, Mith looked mighty seerish.
So her not being attacked and protected by the Ranger - speaks some flavor of volumes. The Ranger didn't think her very seerish. The ducks didn't think her very seerish. Unless of course she is this newly uncloaked figure or what have you - and did the entire stunt-like vote yesterDay to get the Ducks to attack her.

Would of been quite funny that were true, and the bandwagon invite was not taken as much as it was.



X'd with Mith x2 and Gwath.

[Isabellkya]

Or acrylics.

[Nogrod]

Goodness Gracious me, you guys have posted toDay!

I've had a terrible day WW-wise but will soon be able to start reading this. Sadly I have an early call tomorrow so I'm not able to hang around to the deadline like yesterDay (Mith will be happy though... ).

[Mithalwen]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

(Mith will be happy though... ).

Happy? You expect me to be happy? Pfft... but given how ungrateful people are ... I may go treebeardish.

[Isabellkya]

All of these Lommy voters are quite capable of voting for one of their feathered friends. Even starting the vote for one.

All of the following posts are from yesterDay, and are only here because they had DuckLommy in them.


Mith.
#457 - Says Lommy is ringing her alarm bells, is "frivolous".
#487 - Says to Rikae that Lommy and Nienna are much better lynches via her own deductions. As opposed to Rikae wanting to lynch Mith and M's son.
#515 - Calls Lommy "Miss Duck". She is quite certain that Lommy and Nienna are ducks.
#519 - Votes Lommy. She is very confident and invites everyone to bandwagon.

She was quite certain about Lommy her whole Day, and didn't seem to falter from the path. It almost looks like she tried to test the waters out a bit, then decided to just steam ahead. I think the sheer confidence in her statements-as-facts made her look a bit seerish; enabling others to take her up on her invitation more easily. However, she is not the Seer.
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Mac.
#472 - Can usually figure Lommy out. In this case she is unknown - whether to her being evil or her requirement, not sure.
#549 - Votes Lommy. Is more suspicious of her than other choices (Brin, Kath, Nilp). Takes Mith's invite. Agrees with Mith and Gwath.

He is quite capable of starting, being in the early votes - of another Were. I seem to remember something involving Sally a number of games ago. The placement and timing of the vote alone - makes him look innocent. The almost sparsity of his thoughts on Lommy and the almost jump from unknown to voting - is a bit questionable. I believe this to be a both negative and positive. So he is still a half WereDuck.
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Brin.
#552 - Lommy doesn't sit right with her. Because of what she says, not how. She wonders if this time, it is dealing with an evil Lommy.
#570 - Says she could vote for either Lommy or Wilwa, L is suspicious, and would rather have L die than Gwath.
#577 - Votes for L.

Again. There is sparsity in her thoughts on Lommy. The timing and placement of such thoughts, and vote. There is seeming jumping - from "not sitting right" to "suspicious". A mighty leap in the matter of 18 posts on the board.
That she brought L to be tied with Gwath speaks in her favor. However, I could see her jumping on the wagon early for her feather mate; to look less suspicious.
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Fea.
#508 - Sort of trusts L on "ideas of March with knife".
#578 - Votes for L

I believe her posting requirement is restraining her beyond belief. However, I think I could see her faking such a requirement for the craziness of it. The timing and placement speaks in her favor; but with not much else to go on - *shrug*
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Gwath.
#533 - He is beginning to consider Mith's invite for a wagon on L.
#546 - He objects to L's representation of his motives.
#548 - Says L is taking something small and blowing it up, to lynch him
#564 - Will probably vote L. Unless something crazy happens.
#580 - Votes for L.

He seemed quite genuine in his rebuttal to L and subsequent vote. I'm leaning more towards innocent - though I wouldn't rule out it being a Duck vs. Duck situation.
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Dury.
#443 - She says she should've stuck with L or Mac on Day one.
#486 - Agrees with Mith about L.
#525 - Half of her thinks L is a Duck, the other half thinks L is being too careless to be a Duck.
#571 - Will vote for L or Lari.
#576 - Fells worse about Lari. L's behavior is too uncautious for a Duck.
#581 - Votes for L. L has more support, and she finds L guilty.

The placement of her vote, is quite 'hop on the wagon'. However she was one of the more vocal about her doubts with L. Though it could've been a ruse, to distance herself from L since Mith was so certain. I still think her innocent.
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Nog.
#569 - Dury's points on L look sensible. Same with Mith's. It is the first time he is uneasy with L's posts. They are overtly careful, and she avoids debating.
#584 - L is worrying him. She is too defensive and vague. She doesn't feel honest.
#587 Votes L. Says that a lot depends on L's role; will enable to see about others' roles.

Would he vote for a feather mate? Yes. His suspicions of L were quite late in the day - I assume because of time and business. His vote of her, after she'd pretty much already been sentenced, is quite 'hop on the wagon'. He is still quarter WereDuck, three quarters Duck.
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Nerwen.
#586 - Goes back and forth between L and Gwath. One is half mad, the other is wholly unscrupulous.
#589 - Votes L. Says there is no point in voting outside L and Gwath. L feels a bit worse.

I don't think her vote counted. I think she definitely jumped on the wagon. Whether because of a whim or to try and make herself look better for voting for a Duck... *shrug*
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Most suspicious out of the Lommy voters:
Brin, Nerwen

Halfsies:
Mac, Mith, Nog, Fea

Quartersies:
Dury, Gwath


X'd since Nog's #676.

[Isabellkya]

Mith is kind of sounding like an OMT, whom is trying to reason with the village to keep her alive while she "helps".

[Nienna]

Originally Posted by Isabellkya

Mith is kind of sounding like an OMT, whom is trying to reason with the village to keep her alive while she "helps".

OMT? I'm sorry? *tries to keep up with the acronyms*

[Isabellkya]

Oh sorry.
OMT = One Man Team.

[Mithalwen]

OMT? What is that? I like to know what I am being accused of.

And what exactly is unhelpful about identifying ducks? I'd really love to know. As I say when I stop doing so you are quite free to lynch me.

[Kath]

I'm going to look at the posts of my two potential votees and see if I can decide between them.

Lari first:

Day 1:
Huge amounts of pointless banter.

Some good ideas about possible role requirements and possible actual roles as well. The good cobbler idea is an interesting one and she does come up with the idea of someone having extra voting power.

Makes a list with not one single bit of reasoning and votes Durelin, who isn't even at the top of her guilty list, again with any reasoning.

Day 2:
Seemed to have an awful lot of confusion over the Lover role yet at the same time knew a lot about past roles. Which is what makes me a little suspicious of her when she acts the newbie.

Really keen on promoting the trailless kill idea, perhaps to try and keep people thinking there is nothing to see in the kill. Again that odd comment I noticed yesterDay.

List post - comes up with Lommy, Rikae, Mith, Mac and wilwa as suspects. Most of the reasoning is based on bad feelings with only her Mac suspicion having any real strength to it.

Votes Gwath - no reasoning in the post, having had no mention of him all Day.

Day 3:
Some good thoughts on what happened at Night.

Alright so most of my suspicion is based around the odd comment from yesterDay, the lack of reasoning behind any of her suspects and the complete randomness of her vote for Gwath with it's lack of explanation toDay.

Brinn next.

[Kath]

Now Brinn.

I was doing this at the same time as I was doing Lari which is why it follows on.

Day 1:
Huge amounts of pointless banter.

At the point where she becomes 'serious' she only really says who she won't vote for. Does make a good point about watching out for voting based on playing style.

Says she doesn't like Legate or Lommy's votes. Well she was right about Lommy but that could be due to being a fellow wolf or an innocent so that's not much help.

To answer a point of hers, I said to focus on the chatterers because while I think it possible that one person might have a requirement of not posting any substance I don't believe that any more than one person would have that requirement so I don't think it was a silly idea to look at them at all - especially now that my suspicions lie with two of those people.

Votes Legate and does have reasoning from earlier.

Day 2:
Nothing of substance, and I mean nothing, until we get to about post 498 and even then it's only asking Gwath to talk more. She complained the Day before about me singling her out when she wasn't around but she didn't really redeem herself here.

Talks about some players, only really has reasoning behind her conclusions for one person.

Pops up with suspicion of wilwa and Lommy. I wouldn't put it past her to be a wolf and have joined the Lommy bandwagon as I said earlier.

Defends Gwath which is interesting. Most people yesterDay seemed to think that both Gwath and Lommy were suspicious but to varying degrees with Lommy coming out top whereas Brinn argued Gwath's innocence and went for Lommy. Depending on what Gwath turns out to be (if he's anything) that could be a very good choice for a wolf willing to sacrifice a packmate.

Votes Lommy - no reasoning in the post.

Day 3:
Good thoughts on what happened at Night.

Lists wilwa, Nienna, me and Durelin as worrying but with no reasoning. Wonders about Rikae and does have a reason for that.

Goes with the Rikae thing.

My problem here is that so much of my suspicion is based on feelings, which is what I just suspected Lari for. But I'm wary that every reason I'm thinking of for suspecting Brinn could be due to that bad feeling I have about her. That said she hasn't had a huge amount of reasoning behind her suspicions. I think though that I find Lari more suspicious in general, especially because I can find more concrete reasons.

[Kath]

Do you think I'm holding back because I'm not making long thought-out posts containing lists for a change? You do know this is a behaviour modification game, right?

No to the first question, yes to the second. My behaviour has been horribly modified toDay but I'm getting my points across and I've got reasoning in there. I don't believe that your modification would stop you doing that effectively. I'm not suspecting you because of your playing style, I'm suspecting you because you complain about me being suspicious of you when you've not been around but when you are around you're just posting nonsense half the time. I'm suspecting you because I don't believe that three people's role requirements would be to post nonsense which seemed to be your argument.

[Kath]

Time to vote so:

++LARI

Between Brinn and Lari I feel more sure of her. When I looked through the Gwath voters she seemed pretty suspicious and then that 'I can't explain because of my role but also because I'm busy' post didn't really help things. In addition my reasoning for Brinn seems to be based mostly on feelings and I'm not confident about voting on those.

And that's it from me.