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Old 03-01-2009, 12:10 PM   #1
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Also, wilwa, if you're right and that self-vote means Rikae's the cobbler (which I by no means believe), then that means phantom's completely innocent.

Which means you, my dear, are our last wolf.

Just putting that out there.

Hey, it makes either you or I the last wolf, and I know which one I am.

But since everyone is more sure of Izzy, I am probably going to vote for her later.
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Old 03-01-2009, 12:15 PM   #2
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Hey, it makes either you or I the last wolf, and I know which one I am.

But since everyone is more sure of Izzy, I am probably going to vote for her later.
Well, yes, but these past few days whenever I've done number analyses I've always included myself as a known innocent.

Everyone is more sure of Izzy? How do you mean? Everyone is equally sure that Izzy and Rikae are evil! Self-voting, especially when you know you're done for, does not a cobbler make.
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Old 03-01-2009, 12:20 PM   #3
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Everyone is more sure of Izzy? How do you mean? Everyone is equally sure that Izzy and Rikae are evil! Self-voting, especially when you know you're done for, does not a cobbler make.
Uh, I just meant that Izzy seems to be a definite wolf, Rikae seems to be either a cobbler or a wolf. I'd much rather vote a wolf.

Is it not possible that Rikae did it on purpose so that we'd think "wow cobbler, no wait that's a little crazy for a cobbler, she's a wolf, lynch her", when she really is a cobbler? I know it's convaluted, but it just seems too out there for a wolf, but it's caused enough confusion to be the work of a cobbler.
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Old 03-01-2009, 12:31 PM   #4
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Uh, I just meant that Izzy seems to be a definite wolf, Rikae seems to be either a cobbler or a wolf. I'd much rather vote a wolf.

Is it not possible that Rikae did it on purpose so that we'd think "wow cobbler, no wait that's a little crazy for a cobbler, she's a wolf, lynch her", when she really is a cobbler? I know it's convaluted, but it just seems too out there for a wolf, but it's caused enough confusion to be the work of a cobbler.
Look, a doomed wolf is nothing but a cobbler with Night Kill powers. Rikae is a bold, bold player (look at her reveal yesterDay!) and I would put nothing past her.

As for a wolf revealing one of her fellows, it's really quite easy. This is how, IMO, wolf!Rikae would wish yesterDay had gone, keeping in mind none of us had any clue as to how the WQ works:

1). Rikae reveals.
2). Brinn counterreveals.
3). Confusion!!!
4). To test, we lynch Izzy.
5). Izzy is proved right; Brinn is called cobbler and just left alive and mostly harmless.

Or something like that. I will admit, the whole "reveal" thing makes a lot more sense to do from a cobbler's perspective. But I would put nothing past Rikae.

Let's hold our votes till Her Majesty shows up, shall we?

x-ed with Brinn.
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Old 03-01-2009, 12:34 PM   #5
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Well, Brinn, Rikae seems to agree with you about phantom...
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Old 03-01-2009, 12:38 PM   #6
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1). Rikae reveals.
2). Brinn counterreveals.
3). Confusion!!!
4). To test, we lynch Izzy.
5). Izzy is proved right; Brinn is called cobbler and just left alive and mostly harmless.

Or something like that. I will admit, the whole "reveal" thing makes a lot more sense to do from a cobbler's perspective. But I would put nothing past Rikae.
I suppose, I mean I've never played with Rikae before so I don't really know how she works, it just seems so crazy to me, , uh, I'm sooooo confused.

I almost feel like just rolling a die and voting for someone on random, it's all so all over the place, I can't even think anymore.

I'll be back in a bit, I need to clear my head and re-read everything from toDay again...
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Old 03-01-2009, 12:42 PM   #7
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I almost feel like just rolling a die and voting for someone on random, it's all so all over the place, I can't even think anymore.
Let's just wait and see how Brinn votes, eh?
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Old 03-01-2009, 12:46 PM   #8
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I can't believe Shasta gave Brinn all those powers - it's ridiculous.
Not really. For the first few Days it was doing more harm than good- if anything I was helping you baddies out. As for the scry ability, I don't think it's too powerful. I can only successfully scry if I choose a White Pawn and since weren't many ordos by the time I was able to scry, my chances of being successful were rather slim.

And hey, you had plenty of opportunity to Night kill me.

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Brinn, how exactly can you be sure you didn't give double vote power to an evil piece?
Because I just know I made the right decision toDay.

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Also, I'd like to point out that while Rikae herself may be royally screwed, that by no means means that the wolves have lost.

If whoever dies toDay is the cobbler, then the outcome of the game fully depends on toNight's dynamics. What if the wolves kill whoever was given the Power of Three? Then we're back to chance. Or what if they kill Brinn and she scried a baddie who then claims to be the new Ranger?

This game may be heavily swung in the innocents' favor (at last!), but it by no means is a done deal. I may be responding to you, Rikae, because I have nothing else better to do, but someone evil is still lying low and hoping no one picks up on him/her.
Yep, she's right. We haven't won the game yet, so anything could happen.

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Well, Brinn, Rikae seems to agree with you about phantom...
Yep. That, as well as other reactions from Rikae make me feel Option 2 is even more likely.
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Old 03-01-2009, 12:53 PM   #9
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Let's just wait and see how Brinn votes, eh?
I haven't decided just yet. Do you guys need me to vote soon? I have to shower then go to campus to work on a project. I wouldn't be back til evening, but no later than 8:15 EST (and probably even earlier).

Of course, I can't discount the possibility that Mnemo or wilwa are Black pieces since I don't know any White pieces for certain. But with each moment of the Day it's looking less and less likely that they're evil. And if one of you are, then you're fooling me...

EDIT: Meh, I'm not gonna wait any longer to shower. But I'll be back shortly.
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I haven't decided just yet. Do you guys need me to vote soon? I have to shower then go to campus to work on a project. I wouldn't be back til evening, but no later than 8:15 EST (and probably even earlier).

Of course, I can't discount the possibility that Mnemo or wilwa are Black pieces since I don't know any White pieces for certain. But with each moment of the Day it's looking less and less likely that they're evil. And if one of you are, then you're fooling me...

EDIT: Meh, I'm not gonna wait any longer to shower. But I'll be back shortly.
Personally, I don't care; I have all Day. But I'd rather see you take the initiative than one of our "unknowns."
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