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Izzy went out to her lead early, so it's not as if her voters were reacting to anything (a threat to one of their pack-mates). The only person who ended up being threatened with the noose was Nog, and we know that he wasn't a WereWolf, so there was no compelling reason to vote Izzy over him. You certainly can't say it was because the Wolfpack suspected her of being Gifted, otherwise they would've eaten her last Night.
It may seem like it can't possibly be a coincidence, but I'm not seeing a reason why it shouldn't be one.
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Also, I hope Eonwe and Durelin are both back and in working order! We can't give silent players a free pass forever, even though they're having RL troubles.
I really can't wait till we've got a flood of more opinions out here. Recent events should result in a flowering of ideas, which I hope can be translated into evidence. I really want to hear more from Fea, because I'm concerned about her actions yesterDay. Hansy's reactions, given that he voted Nog first when Nog was nowhere in the running for a lynch, should be interesting. Come to think of it, that whole Nog-in-second-place seemed to me, at least, to spring from nowhere! phantom voting him on a lark I can see, but it still don't look good. Oh, and phantom, you're still alive. I'm starting to get worried. ![]()
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Good thoughts, Sally. Similar to some of the stuff than went through my head. Indeed, Izzy and Brin are the prime candidates in such a case. Oh, and maybe one other person. Can't think of the name... *snicker*
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Then again, I'm rather grasping at straws here. Anything which looks off is grounds for concern, regardless of the feelings I get about players, because I don't get any feelings about them other than "innocent" or "unknown," generally. It may not have been a Vast Wolvish Conspiracy, but that doesn't mean no one was involved. Of course, Sally's vote looks odd, explanation or no.
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Anyway, I have really really got to nap a bit. I'm supposed to be waking up in less than four hours. (Third time in a row I'll be getting four hours or less.
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But now I must leave. *zzzzzz*
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![]() Hmmmm I'm gonna look at the voting records again and see what I can find. Brinn just jumped out at me because she's been alarming me for a bit and your suggestion made enormous amounts of sense. Wow. Who'd have thunk it? Well, quite frankly, I knew he was innocent. Now by 'know' I don't mean I knew with 100% certainty, because only the bishop(s) and the mod can know that and I am none of the above. I only mean that I had a heavy suspicion that he was innocent, and even an inkling that he could be gifted, though I obviously didn't want to say that and get him Night killed. So yesterDay, like the Day before, I made the best choice I could under the circumstances, the more valuable of two innocents rather than the lesser of two evils if you will.
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I'm quite confused to say the least. Yet I am not about to look a gift horse in the mouth (too much.)
When I saw the scene, I was quite speechless after exclaiming a phrase; which I can't repeat the entirety of here. My thought, is if the WQ were responsible for it - wouldn't Shasta of attributed xer for it; rather than Sauron?
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Never said she wasn't, love. What's your point?
Heh, yeah Izzy, I had the same reaction. To be honest, I'm really upset that Noggie got lynched instead of you, but happy you're still alive. Does that make sense?
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But I don't think we can look into the narrations for clues other than who got which Night kill. After all, the death that was saved was (almost) caused by the two Wizards actually colliding with one another. But unless there's some rule which we haven't been told of (which is entirely likely, praise our Mod with great praise) the unexplainable death must have had something to do with the unknown role.
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My last post was crossposted with #368 and #367. But it wouldn't let me save it after editing it in.
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Ai! I am stricken with the force of Peter Jackson's Subtlety Mace (tm)!
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A voice from beyond the abyss...
"Fair not"? And I was so looking forward to the annual Were-Fair...
In other news, your Almighty Mod-Lord of Doom and Pointless but Fun Exposition is quite pleased with this game so far. You game pieces are doing quite well. To reward you, I'm going to let you vote among yourselves to decide who shall get a cameo-parody in the next lynch plot! ![]()
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Oooo fun!
++ Mistress Mith
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To the lists!
Some people may appear on multiple lists, some may appear on none.
Werecreatures Brinn Fea Hansy Durie (just a hunch, though I know she's been gone so I won't lynch her now) Spefically the Black Queen Brinn Hansy Hiding in the dark corners (could go either way) Mnemo Kath Probably innocent, at least for now Izzy Rikae (What? Inconceivable!) Phantom Steve (pity the sick man if nothing else) Definitely innocent in my book Sally Shasta Mith Legate Nilp Lommie Agan Greenie I also have some more solid theories about the White Queen, but I don't care to endanger Her Majesty, so I'll keep them to myself until I believe the time is right. Until then I'm on the straight and narrow, off to analyze someone. You'll find out who when my post pops up. ![]()
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I'm torn. On the one hand I want people to analyze so I can analyze their analysis. On the other hand I'm afraid this is going to keep us from our actual job, if not help the wolfiekinses (in case they're not all Gifted by Divine Grace with Brilliance and Intellectual Superiority like phantom). Remember, peeps, they're just theories. There are many of them, and the truth could be one, a combination, or something different entirely. In case people are wondering (pointing out the obvious yey!), the Good:Evil ratio now stands as 8:5. ...Maybe now would be a good time for the Black Queen to start going after R,B,K, given that an innocent lynch would put the ratio at 7:5.
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Blast from the Past
All the way back from Day 1...
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True, Brinn, Phantom's voted the same way you have, but I think it would be pretty silly for him to bring up the true nature of his role so flippantly. I mean, it's Phantom, but still....
Shasta's actually gone to bed for the night. I'm not saying he'd lie to us so much as withhold information. Completely different barrel of red herring. Well, I certainly named my computer before the game started so yeah. Draw from it what conclusiong you may; I'm going to try to catch the baddies if you don't mind.
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I've got all of Willa's posts cued up and will run through them at some point, but I'm kind of considering going to bed, or at least getting off the board for the night. I'll make sure to get to my analysis as soon as I can though. (Hopefully I'll be around during my rubbish seminar class tomorrow if I can manage to get a spot where the professor won't see me, because distraction is the only thing keeping me sane hehe.)
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For Brinn, regarding Shasta.
Crap, you're right. Sorry, I missed that bit when I was reading before. Thanks for correcting me. And on that note I need to get to bed too. I was just checking in quick before I toddled off, so I'll see you fine people later. Leave me lots of posts to look at! ![]()
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Checking in. Can't sleep. I can tell you all that the Day 1 lynch was indeed randomized. I went to random.org and asked for a random number out of 100. Gwath was odd numbers, Fea was even numbers. The random number generator tossed out #39, which is odd, so Gwath was executed.
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Ok, just woke up here , bear with me - but why on earth is everyone suddenly treating Izzy as if she is some sort of known innocent? We don't even know why she wasn't lynched, and the person lynched in her stead was the ranger, and yet you all assume she's good? Did I miss something?
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However a piece nearly fell off the board, that much he says, but was saved by the move of another piece. Shasta doesn't say which pieces, but unless the White Queen is killing people at Night, I'm going to assume (I think this is a fair assumption) that the BQ had a Ranger of some variety get in the way of last Night's work. Sorry if I'm not being crisp and organized; I'm trying to be thorough, but I need breakfast and I don't know when it's going to happen. About half the players could tell you that I'm Incredible Hulk-ish when I'm hungry. "You wouldn't like me when I'm... hungry. Laura hungry. Laura smash." Anyway, to summarize: the BQ seems to have attempted, and the most likely occurence, based on the mod's narration, is that the kill choice was protected. Which means that the BQ stumbled upon - or strided confidently into - something. Which gives me something new to think about: how does the BQ choose xer kills? I hate having roles that are hard to trace. You can find a seer, and you can say confidently, "this person isn't this role" about ones with specific constraints, but I loathe not knowing the level of vulnerability of bad guys, and the details of the good guys. I know the WQ is on our side, or she wouldn't be labeled WQ, but what if she's kind of like the BQ in that she's definitely opposed to the contrasting side, but isn't necessarily on the side of the rest of the Whites? What if there are two werebear-type characters in play, both of whom are attempting to be the last player standing? *grumble* Sorry, that was my belly. A banana and coffee aren't good enough to make me functional. I'm going to search through Day One posts for something I shouldn't talk about. I'll let you know if I find anything worth mentioning.
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Just checking in really quickly, will be back with much more in a few hours.
Here are my lists as they stand now: Thinking guilty: Mnemo Sally because of below post Quote:
Also, Eonwe from his posts from Day 1 Not really liking but probably won't vote for unless they say something later I don't like: Durelin Lariren Hansy Not sure of: Fea and phantom, these two are so frustrating ![]() Kath, posted more yesterday but not enough for me to get a read, will have more later Pretty confident about: Izzy Brinn Rikae Like I said, back after a few hours of studying with more.
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Upon reflection, my last post seems more grouchy than usual. I apologize for its tone, and beg understanding of my idiot body's inability to function without real food at frequent intervals. I shouldn't post at all until after balanced meals.
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Okay, here is what I was typing up yesterDay to post when my *insert expletives here* internet died on me...
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Remember how I said the manipulating would come? Well look what happened yesterDay! ++the phantom Even if I'm wrong, and he's not a werecreature, he deserves it for all this saving people nonsense. I guess I wouldn't mind seeing Sally go at this point, either, but I like her more. ![]() I have to go to class soon so I will explain/argue more my points about phantom later, promise. Hopefully not too much later. |
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Sally is acting really weird (just went over toDay's posts more), but I am always more inclined to lean towards the sneakier seeming person (and I mean, it's Sally...acting weird....). I think she can keep it cool when she wants to, regardless of how boundless her insanity is.
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And you know he'll enjoy it. ![]() I've got an hour and a half before I'm to see a man about a duck....erm, I mean a duck about lunch. *shifty eyes* I'll get to my Willa analysis now, although I'll probably have a look at Durie too just to see what I find. Not sure which I'll get done first, so if it ends up being Durie don't be too surprised. Back soon I hope!
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Oh. I forgot there was a cobbler in this game.
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Oh, hey. So Sally's the Black Rook and was attacked by the Werebear last night and was protected by phantom the Black Knight (*points to arrow icon*)? Cause then she's a goner soon anyway.
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Non-sequitor much? Or are you saying that someone in particular is the cobbler? I'm just a tad confused.
Anyway, currently working on my analyses, promise, so I'll be back soon, but I decided to refresh the thread real quick and wanted to know what Durie was talking about. EDIT: x'd with Durie. Honey you couldn't be more wrong. Stop being such a pessimist and think on the bright side. Both Phantom and I are still here. ![]()
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