T-I-G LVI: Panic at the Prancing Pony

[Meneltarmacil]

I've been checking out Aganzir lately so as to focus on people other than Mac. She mostly appears to be innocent, but without a lot of ideas as to what to do, and frequently mentions Nogrod, who strikes her as an enigma.

I'd like to say that, contrary to things I mentioned earlier, a lack of suggestions really should not define one as a wraith, given that I certainly haven't a clue as to what to look for.

Also, Rikae and Mac have both said disturbing things that serve to confuse the village a great deal. Why would these two want to distract us such? Is one of them a wraith?

I really should vote, so

++Mac

[Macalaure]

Originally Posted by Meneltarmacil

Also, Rikae and Mac have both said disturbing things that serve to confuse the village a great deal. Why would these two want to distract us such? Is one of them a wraith?

I really should vote, so

++Mac

What gives you the impression that I wanted to distract?

[Rikae]

By the way, I thought Menel was being utterly nonsensical because he was the seer, and didn't want to give that as his reason for lynching Mac and get himself killed so early.

But now it's pretty clear that isn't the case... and he's jumping on an easy suspect with reasons that make no sense at all. (If you didn't catch it, he cites Mac's "ongoing suspicion" of Gollum). I don't know what else Menel is, but he seems like a loose cannon.

[Macalaure]

Sally did a vote count today and has yet to share some of her own thoughts. Yesterday she kidded around until others set the field, from which she chose me (and Brinn). For anybody else, this would be suspicious, but for Sally, it's different. She needs to be watched, though. Like Rikae, I'd like to hear what she meant with wraiths taking advantage of me trying to save myself.


What still nags me about Beregond is his bandwaggony vote yesterDay. Other than that, he's not very suspicious. He points out his newbieness a bit too much, though - something packmates could have told him to do.


Lari has been constrained by time yesterDay, but I wonder whether she couldn't have used the time she had more productively. She only makes a list before her vote and the opinions given in there leave to be desired. She admitted to that later, but that doesn't make it better.

Originally Posted by Lari

Lommy: For reasons stated before.

What were those?

She later likes to vote Lommy but goes for Durelin to avoid a double lynch. Note that she, even though time was available, did not retract after she knew there were none. ToDay she complains about the voting yesterDay.

She's suspicious, but I wouldn't vote for her until she posted more.

[Rikae]

Originally Posted by Macalaure

She later likes to vote Lommy but goes for Durelin to avoid a double lynch. Note that she, even though time was available, did not retract after she knew there were none. ToDay she complains about the voting yesterDay.

So she did. I had forgotten that, but it was strange.

[Macalaure]

I looked over Durelin's posts and I don't have any idea where the whole ranger-hint-affair came from. Her actual input is scarce. She has not appeared yet toDay. I need to see more of her before I can form an opinion.

Menel has been utterly fixed on me. Granted, maybe I voted for him once too often, but this is not helpful. However, if he's so fixed on me, why is he not able to come up with better points?
What I'm asking myself: would a wraith act like that? I used to tend towards 'no', but I'm starting to lose my objectivity with him and just try to lynch him anyway.

Looking over the points in Rikae's post and Lommy's reply, I'm willing to let go of Lily. I will keep on watching her, though.

[Mirandir]

Okeedokee I'm back (two hours later than originally intended, but back nonetheless). I read through everything quickly to get an idea for what's going on and now I'll be going back and figuring out what the heck I think about everyone.

[Beregond]

I've having a hard time with you, Mac! You're still high on my list of suspects, but when I ask myself why, I can't put my finger on it. I might read through to see. Either you're simply innocent, or very dogdy! It's cruel, but I almost want to vote for you just to find out. You may be right about the bandwagon vote yesterDay, but it was that or an essentially random vote. I'll vote again tonight with a more informed gut and hopefully a clear head and if it looks like bandwagoning, so be it!

I'm curious, Fea, if you have a reason you'd like to share for sparing Mac?

On an aside, I'm a bit bemused by the idea that it may be bad to restate other people's opinions and use them in one's own conclusions. Sure, it would be great to be the first person to notice a quote that looks suspicious, but most of the time other people see the same things you do, and often write about them quicker.

Alright, I might make a list now.

[Macalaure]

Looks like I'm in for a hard night again.

Well, bring them on!

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

So what if I am slightly drunk!? You would be as well if you spend all day selling Brie to people totaly ignorant about the quality of cheese.

Listen now and listen well, I am going to go out in the kitchen and fetch a liter of milk, I am going to drink it, come back, vote Mac and of course read the two pages I have yet to read!

. . . I mean. . . Then I am going to cast my vote for someone undefined.

[Meneltarmacil]

Actually, it's not about revenge, craziness, being a wraith, or anything else, Mac. It's just that I really have no idea what to do, found a few odd things in your posts, and can't figure out anything else.

I'm sorry, really.

[Macalaure]

Alright, that might've sounded a bit too flippant.

I mean, I have two votes and now two people I suspect state that they suspect me on suspect reasons that might or might not be subject to change til they vote. Now I'm sitting here waiting for the things to happen and wondering whether I will have to fight til the last minute again or not and whether I will make it this time and whether I'll be forced to vote for somebody I think is likely innocent again instead of someone I actually suspect.

crossed since my last post

[Macalaure]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Sad that you fail to see that. Well I'm not going to force my opinion on the matter - and what you say about my "insistence" clearly tells you have not been reading the thread... Too bad as I have kind of counted on you to be one of those who actually read what is said unlike some who just pop in and vote.

By insistence I mean the way you replied to Rikae and don't seem to see that what Durelin said was very likely IC. I also think you're going a bit too far with that up there.

Originally Posted by Menel

It's just that I really have no idea what to do, found a few odd things in your posts, and can't figure out anything else.

Hey, there's still time to find alternatives.

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Macalaure

I mean, I have two votes and now two people I suspect state that they suspect me on suspect reasons that might or might not be subject to change til they vote. Now I'm sitting here waiting for the things to happen and wondering whether I will have to fight til the last minute again or not and whether I will make it this time and whether I'll be forced to vote for somebody I think is likely innocent again instead of someone I actually suspect.

Sounds soo familiar...

I see why people suspect you. On Day1 your speculation did look like you were giving hints to the other side and toDay your reactions to Rikae's "reveal" looked bad indeed.

But you make yourself very innocent otherwise... So a skilfull wolf or just a sometimes misguided ordo? I might vote for you but I'm reluctant to do it as it's only Day2 now.

Like with anyone, it's only our death that will confirm our innocence - or guilt. But being an ordo we should not be thinking about if some of our suspicions were not too well-received or if our suspecting someone were to produce a counter-attack or anything. The sincerity of our words are proved afterwards but our goal is to draw the baddies forwards before the game ends.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Originally Posted by Beregond

I'm curious, Fea, if you have a reason you'd like to share for sparing Mac?

Not that I'd like to share, no...

Originally Posted by Durelin

Durelin spent 47 hours brooding in her dark corner, pondering her now dual purpose. There was double the pondering to be done, and time was growing short.

Seriously? You're not thinking it's a bit late for IC posting?

[Durelin]

Durelin stared broodingly at the glowing embers in the fireplace. Emnity filled the room, thick as smoke. They were surely doomed.

[Brinniel]

Originally Posted by Mira

And what about Strider? Nothing has been mentioned about who xe could be, other than some talk on page 8 about Durelin

Why would we talk about Strider?

[Mirandir]

Originally Posted by Brinniel

Why would we talk about Strider?

Because there's been speculation about every other role. I just thought it was strange, nothing more, nothing less.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Originally Posted by Brinniel

Why would we talk about Strider?

Because it can be useful to have a good idea who is playing the Ranger role.

Which seems to be what Durelin's getting at.

What I can't figure out about this game is what's with the mysterious 'obvious' reveals so early on? Rikae playing seer, Durelin posting only in Ranger garb (and third person)... What is this about? Is it just a reignited desire for simple playfulness?

Or is there something secret going on with roles? Or like...

I just can't figure out why ordos would set themselves up to be lynched unless they're taking one for the team in effort to set up a bandwagon so the people later on can analyze what happened?

Like... it just doesn't make sense to me.

I'm very tempted to vote Dury as I don't know what she's playing at. I feel like the Ranger wouldn't make a point of making herself wraith-bait.

[Brinniel]

Of those who have already been voted for, Greenie is the one I'd most likely vote for. My opinions of her haven't changed.

Nogrod's suspicions of Durelin do seem rather silly, however I don't think he has evil intentions. It seems more likely he's a misguided innocent with flawed reasoning.

I haven't been paying much attention to Mac, probably because his posts don't strike me either way. As of now, I can't see any strong enough reasoning to lynch him, but I definitely would like to have a closer look at him come toMorrow.

I still find Fea suspicious. And the whole seer reaction doesn't help.

Sally also remains on my suspicion list for her posts yesterDay. But she was hardly around toDay, and I'd like to hear more from her.

EDIT: X-ed a whole bunch

[Brinniel]

Keeping track of the votes:

Rikae: ++Greenie (Greenie 1)
Aganzir: ++Mac (Greenie 1, Mac 1)
Greenie: ++Nogrod (Greenie 1, Mac 1, Nogrod 1)
Menel: ++Mac (Greenie 1, Mac 2, Nogrod 1)
Lommy: ++Aganzir (Greenie 1, Mac 2, Nogrod 1, Aganzir 1)