What other fantasy books do YOU read?

[Lariren Shadow]

I've heard good and bad things about the Fionavar books. I've had friends swear by them and friends who thought they were cliche. I do know that Guy Gavriel Kay did write them after working on something Tolkien related(right now it escapes me as to what it was).

I pretty much love anything by Neil Gaiman, especially Stardust. I highly recommend any of his books.

Currently I am reading The Time Traveler's Wife. It's very good and I would consider it sort of fantasy/sci-fi/a whole new breed of fiction all together. It's very good and highly recommend it.

Other than that I do tend to read the books in the teen/young adult section mostly because I'm(at least possibly) going to be teaching high school students soon(ah, real world!) and should know what they are reading. The answer: vampires. A lot of vampires. Some faery too, but mostly vampires.

[Thinlómien]

Originally Posted by Lariren Shadow

I've heard good and bad things about the Fionavar books. I've had friends swear by them and friends who thought they were cliche. I do know that Guy Gavriel Kay did write them after working on something Tolkien related(right now it escapes me as to what it was).

He helped Christopher Tolkien to edit the Silmarillion. But anyway, I can offer yet another opinion on Fionavar. They are downright cliché. Probably one of the most clichéish fantasy books I've read. But they are still simply brilliant, because Kay can pull it off. It doesn't matter if you've got all kinds of seers, dark lords, King Arthurs, semi-Beren&Lúthiens, elves sailing to west, werewolf liutenants trees of life and prophecies in the same book if the author knows how to use the elements exactly correctly. At times it's breathtaking.

I must say, though, that even though Fionavar is very good, I like many other books of Kay's better. Perhaps you could try them too if you're afraid of clichés? Tigana is a lovely, tragic fantasy epic. And if you're into sort of alternative history, you must read The Lions of Al-Rassan (I'm convinced that book is just perfect) and A Song of Arbonne. They are set in worlds very much like Spain under the Arab rule and medieval France, respectively, and they are among my favourite books, both of them.

Originally Posted by Lari

Currently I am reading The Time Traveler's Wife. It's very good and I would consider it sort of fantasy/sci-fi/a whole new breed of fiction all together. It's very good and highly recommend it.

I read it after three downers had praised it, but it was a kind of disappointment. Yes, it was nice, but that's it. I didn't find it especially moving or exciting or well-written or original. For me, it was too much like the sort of icky romantic women's literature...

[Lariren Shadow]

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

I must say, though, that even though Fionavar is very good, I like many other books of Kay's better. Perhaps you could try them too if you're afraid of clichés? Tigana is a lovely, tragic fantasy epic. And if you're into sort of alternative history, you must read The Lions of Al-Rassan (I'm convinced that book is just perfect) and A Song of Arbonne. They are set in worlds very much like Spain under the Arab rule and medieval France, respectively, and they are among my favourite books, both of them.

I read it after three downers had praised it, but it was a kind of disappointment. Yes, it was nice, but that's it. I didn't find it especially moving or exciting or well-written or original. For me, it was too much like the sort of icky romantic women's literature...

I think my other thing that would stop me reading Fionavar is that my name is Jennifer and, well, I never liked Guinevere.

I do have another Kay book in my room at home, Ysabel. I started in a bookstore and then decided not to buy it(poor college student and it being in hardcover). Then I found it for five dollars at a book sale so it's now sitting in my room at home(because it's still hardcover and really heavy to bring places). I have looked at Tigana and been recommended it before so I think I need to go buy it.

As for The Time Traveler's Wife, I can see what you mean, but I still love it.

[Thinlómien]

Originally Posted by Lariren Shadow

I do have another Kay book in my room at home, Ysabel. I started in a bookstore and then decided not to buy it(poor college student and it being in hardcover). Then I found it for five dollars at a book sale so it's now sitting in my room at home(because it's still hardcover and really heavy to bring places). I have looked at Tigana and been recommended it before so I think I need to go buy it.

Oh, I have to read that yet - I bought it for my sister (who is also a Kay fan) for Christmas and she just finished reading it, so I could pick it up now if I only had the time!

[Thinlómien]

Sorry to double post, but I've been considering reading Dune and Mists of Avalon, and I was thinking - could anyone give me opinions on them? What are they like? Are they worth the read? Are they something a busy student could read, or do they require more time and devotion?

edit: xed with Lari so I didn't double post, yay!

[Lariren Shadow]

Hehe, I shall add to that:

Dune I've only ever heard good things about. The sequals, however, I've never heard anything good about. It's been called The Lord of the Rings of sci-fi.

As for The Mists of Avalon, I read it after the mini-series was on tv and ended up trying very hard to finish it but never actually succeeding. It was really get and then it went on a really long kick where nothing really happened for a good over 100 pages. We're talking, excuse my opinion, worst than some of the longer more descriptive parts of Lord of the Rings(you know, where you are really appreciative of the way things are said and the language used but are wondering why the rock is being described for a really long time). I just, stopped. I couldn't get through the rest. It was a good story, but it just dragged.

[Kitanna]

Originally Posted by Lariren Shadow

As for The Mists of Avalon, I read it after the mini-series was on tv and ended up trying very hard to finish it but never actually succeeding. It was really get and then it went on a really long kick where nothing really happened for a good over 100 pages. We're talking, excuse my opinion, worst than some of the longer more descriptive parts of Lord of the Rings(you know, where you are really appreciative of the way things are said and the language used but are wondering why the rock is being described for a really long time). I just, stopped. I couldn't get through the rest. It was a good story, but it just dragged.

I totally agree. I'm so far along I refuse to give up now. But there are hundreds of pages where it's nothing but Morgaine lamenting her lost feminist powers and Lancelet pining for Arthur's queen. When the story progresses and Avalon's plans are revealed and there's a plot it's great. I personally liked the mini-series better because it didn't get bogged down with fifty pages of Morgaine's feelings about the same thing over and over again.

[Lindale]

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

Sorry to double post, but I've been considering reading Dune and Mists of Avalon, and I was thinking - could anyone give me opinions on them? What are they like? Are they worth the read? Are they something a busy student could read, or do they require more time and devotion?

My dad has told me for the longest time to read Dune, if I want to understand economics (it has something to do with spices and empires and stuff). But I haven't, because I don't know where he placed our copy. But I think it really is a good book; my dad maybe a book lover but he is mostly an economist.

I found The Enchantress of Florence by Salman Rushdie at the university book stalls, and had a pretty good bargain. The cover had a pretty good review from Ursula K. Le Guin (who I don't really love, but appreciate nonetheless), and was described by others as 'postmodernist magic realism.' I still haven't finished it, but I think it's very worth the money I put in. Imagine a great conqueror with a very large empire getting so lonely as to create his own imaginary wife a la children's imaginary friends.

[Lalwendë]

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

Sorry to double post, but I've been considering reading Dune and Mists of Avalon, and I was thinking - could anyone give me opinions on them? What are they like? Are they worth the read? Are they something a busy student could read, or do they require more time and devotion?

edit: xed with Lari so I didn't double post, yay!

Mists of Avalon does have slow parts, but it's also tremendously atmospheric - and if you are interested in reading Arthurian stories, it's good to read one from a wholly different perspective even if you end up not liking it! Though I'm sure you will like it.

It's especially evocative if you know the locations used, the West Country and the Vale of Avalon.

And it's very Pagan and feminist - I like that as someone who's tackled Women Who Run With The Wolves

[Morthoron]

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

Sorry to double post, but I've been considering reading Dune and Mists of Avalon, and I was thinking - could anyone give me opinions on them? What are they like? Are they worth the read? Are they something a busy student could read, or do they require more time and devotion?

Originally Posted by Lalwendë

Mists of Avalon does have slow parts, but it's also tremendously atmospheric - and if you are interested in reading Arthurian stories, it's good to read one from a wholly different perspective even if you end up not liking it! Though I'm sure you will like it.

It's especially evocative if you know the locations used, the West Country and the Vale of Avalon.

Not wishing to sound like a chauvinist, but I found Mists of Avalon dreadfully boring and devoid of humor. I prefer T.H. White's retelling of the Arthurian cycle in The Once and Future King. Mary Stewart's Merlin series (The Crystal Cave, The Hollow Hills, etc.) is interesting in parts, but is rather somber, and tends to meander later on in the series.

The Dune series is excellent, an intriguing tale straddling fantasy and science fiction with a depth both politically and religiously which transcends most everything in the genre (save for maybe Asimov's Foundation trilogy). Read Dune, Dune Messiah, Children of Dune and God Emperor of Dune, but go nae further. It gets silly afterwards, particularly since the original author died and the story was taken up by his not-so-talented son and a ghost writer. The amount of time the story spans is reminiscent of Tolkien, chronologically speaking.

Originally Posted by Lalwendë

[And it's very Pagan and feminist - I like that as someone who's tackled Women Who Run With The Wolves

My significant other (who is glaring at me rather wolfishly at the moment), is an advocate of Clarissa Estes; therefore, rather than imperilling my very soul, I won't comment any further.

[Kitanna]

Originally Posted by Morthoron

Not wishing to sound like a chauvinist, but I found Mists of Avalon dreadfully boring and devoid of humor. I prefer T.H. White's retelling of the Arthurian cycle in The Once and Future King. Mary Stewart's Merlin series (The Crystal Cave, The Hollow Hills, etc.) is interesting in parts, but is rather somber, and tends to meander later on in the series.

Didn't Mary Stewart write The Wicked Day as well? Another book that gives a different perspective, this time from Mordred's view. I never finished it because my mom stole it from my shelf when I put it aside for school work. But from the little I was able to read of Mary Stewart's other works they were fantastic. If Bradley had cut Mists of Avalon down it would be a much better book. I do love how she makes Morgan Le Fay less a witch and more a person who's been used poorly by those around her.

[Lalwendë]

Originally Posted by Morthoron

Not wishing to sound like a chauvinist, but I found Mists of Avalon dreadfully boring and devoid of humor. I prefer T.H. White's retelling of the Arthurian cycle in The Once and Future King. Mary Stewart's Merlin series (The Crystal Cave, The Hollow Hills, etc.) is interesting in parts, but is rather somber, and tends to meander later on in the series.

It's going to be impossible to express without it coming out all wrong, but Mists of Avalon seemed to have that hippy Glastonbury feel about it. Maybe the best way I can describe it is that it was a bit 'trippy'

I'd forgotten about the Mary Stewart ones - I read those not long after reading LotR for the first time and they stood up to the incredibly fussy taste I'd developed!

I've got Neil Gaiman's The Graveyard Book here, so I'm about to see what that's like...

I got The Lost Girls for Christmas - it's very good, and very, very, very adult.....Oh, and one I have to thank Pio for is The Fables - I finally read the first one last year and it was amazing! I'm trying to find the second one now...

[Gwathagor]

Originally Posted by Lalwendë

I got The Lost Girls for Christmas - it's very good, and very, very, very adult.....

Define "good."

[Guinevere]

Originally Posted by Morthoron

Not wishing to sound like a chauvinist, but I found Mists of Avalon dreadfully boring and devoid of humor. I prefer T.H. White's retelling of the Arthurian cycle in The Once and Future King. Mary Stewart's Merlin series (The Crystal Cave, The Hollow Hills, etc.) is interesting in parts, but is rather somber, and tends to meander later on in the series.

Oh, I love Mary Stewart's Merlin series (and most of her other books) too. I read those in the seventies when I had no idea about Tolkien yet.
Speaking of Arthurian fiction (if that is fantasy?), I am very fond of Gillian Bradshaw's trilogy "Hawk of May", "Kingdom of Summer", "In Winter's Shadow".
I guess that's why I never tried reading the much praised "Mists of Avalon". I am so fond of the characters portrayed in Bradshaw's novels, I didn't wish to see them portrayed quite differently.

I started reading T.H.White's "The Once and Future King", but found it rather strange - it was just not my cup of tea.

[Morthoron]

Originally Posted by Guinevere

I started reading T.H.White's "The Once and Future King", but found it rather strange - it was just not my cup of tea.

That's why there's camomile, Earl Grey, oolong, etc. -- there's a cup of tea for everyone.

For me, it was an extremely funny book which turns very sad, and it's that juxtaposition of humor and melancholy which got me. And the profound nature of T.h. White's pacificism is imbued in the very fabric of the tale. One literally cries when Arthur, old and tired and wiser, raises his hands to stop the charge of his men and Mordred's, but his effort is as futile as trying to hold back a tidal wave, and he falls in the cataclym. One of my all-time favorites, right up there with LotR.

[Morsul the Dark]

The Black Company Series from Glen Cook

Starting with an original Trilogy

The Black Company
The Shadow of fear (I thinks it's called just drew a blank)
The White Rose

those three books were amazing! great narrative and the "Baddies" are really scary and evil.... and then they show you the Other side of themselves like "The Lady"(that's what she's called) suddenly bursts into tears because she's afraid of death and why she protects herself and her empire so strongly, Cook makes the baddies human. also there is magic but in measured amount like Tolkien it's there but not over the top.

then there are the Books of the south:

A second trilogy about the Black Company;

These continue on the story and delve into the Company's history as well as making an extremely interesting plot leading right into the third set of books which contains four volumes......

and those four volumes are.... out of print! I stumbled across the first three the second trilogy I got in a newly printed compilation book, and the third sett I'm hoping will be coming out in such a way as well...

[Boo Radley]

Right now (Well... not RIGHT now. Right now I'm typing this post) I'm reading Monstrous Regiment, by Terry Pratchett, Very, very funny. It's one of the DiscWorld series.

[Snowdog]

I'm doing a casual re-read of the Black Company series by Glen Cook.
An interesting perspective in a rather dark world.

[TheGreatElvenWarrior]

I have started reading Harry Potter, however I'm only on book four. I rather like it actually, despite my vast unwillingness to begin.

[mikelangelo11]

The Hobbit by JRRT - A classic of the genre, much more approachable than Lord of the Rings and the Chronicles of Amber by Zelazny - Fantasy at its most mysterious and most action-oriented, far from the conventions of the genre.

[xMellrynxMaidenx]

Originally Posted by TheGreatElvenWarrior

I have started reading Harry Potter, however I'm only on book four. I rather like it actually, despite my vast unwillingness to begin.

Goblet of Fire is one of the more interesting of the series, in my opinion. Though I really like Deathly Hallows more, I believe.

That being said, I am indeed a Harry Potter fan of both film and movie. I've noticed that the opinions on this series varies from person to person on here. :P We're all entitled to our opinions and am rather surprised, and relieved, to see that no one has ripped someone else's head off yet for having a different opinion on this board. I think I could get use to it here, hehe! :P

But, I digress, as I normally tend to do.

I've not really broaden (epic failure with the use of the word, I know. I'm too tired to be grammatically correct at the moment.) my horizons in the Fantasy genre other than JRR Tolkien's works and J.K. Rowling's.

I absolutely refuse to continue to read the Twilight series. But is this leaning more towards science fiction? I've never really been sure. Anyways, I tried to finish with the last book and I simply can't...to be honest, I never fully read the first three straight through either. For those of you who like it, know that I'm not bashing it. I just can't...get into it like most can.