Tol-in-Gaurhoth LIV: The Council of Evil

[Strongbow]

Originally Posted by Aganzir

No problem, I just interpreted it that way because no one else had been talking about their activity recently. Besides I wouldn't have been offended by it, I just wouldn't have liked that kind of argument against me.

You could also overreact & be aggresive because you're guilty. There's no way we others can know it. Also, if you're innocent, the best way you can help find the baddies is not making everyone concentrate on you.

I don't think your activity is a ploy, and that'll come through in a list post, which I'll do...soon?

What you may not understand is that I am trying find baddies. I'm drawing them out, to see how they reason through my un-reason. Because that's the only way we're going to be able to find them, especially in a quiet game like this. To make ludicrous, outlandish statements to see how others react to them. I have a feeling that someone might have bitten, and it was Gwath who did - he reacted in a way I did not expect. I could not trap him, and he passes that test. Now, I have to spend some time thinking up another Mad Hatter scheme and see who'll bite this time.

(I'm still serious about the self-lynch though. Don't push me too hard.)

x'd with Agan

[Aganzir]

But it's also a possibility you have to bear in mind that an innocent reacts to something weird. Especially in this quiet a village where it may be hard to find some concrete evidence it's too easy to start grasping at straws. Besides, had I been here, I would have reacted pretty much the same way as Gwath.

[Meneltarmacil]

I don't really know what to make of sally, but I have noticed an odd tendency in her posts to mention, repeatedly, that she has no idea who the baddies may be. Possibly that Evil Sally can't find anything with which to trip up the innocent, so she just tries to post a lot in order to seem eager to help.

I'm really getting some negative vibes about the arguments between Gwathagor and Strongbow. Their antagonism started early, and over a joke at that. They may well be wolves, making up this disagreement to avoid impressions of being allies. However, between the two, I think Bowie's overdefensiveness makes him the more suspicious one, so

++Strongbow

[Gollum the Great]

Dl in about an hour.....

[Gollum the Great]

DL in 35 minutes and I only have one *beeeeeeeeeeeeeeep* vote! Anybody home?!?!?

Edit: I hope no one was offended....

[Aganzir]

Yeah I'm writing a post.

Currently I think I'm going to vote sally though...

[Aganzir]

My opinion about Kath will probably pretty much depend on sally's role.

Kath, what gave you the impression I had thought the Gwath/Bowie thing through well?
Also, how did I seem to flip flop apart from changing my opinion about Gwath?
Why did you think that Nog's failure to look involved pointed at his innocence? I think he's equally involved whatever his role, given he has enough time.

Originally Posted by Kath on Boro

"If you are trying to manipulate me so you can devour me at night, I must say it's working." - he says to Agan, could make it easy for her to kill him or again could be someone trying to set her up.

I fail to see how someone could be trying to set me up. Just how could that comment point at me killing him?

I think Gollum told there had been no dream before the game started only on day 2 so the wolves could well think Boro was the seer. Therefore it shouldn't make your thoughts about him wrong.

Kath's attitude towards sally makes me think that if sally's a wolf, Kath might be as well. However even if sally's not a wolf, I find it possible that Kath is one, although then it seems less likely. I don't know.

Apart from this I can't make much of Kath's posts. It's mostly the interaction with sally... See what I mean if I say it's hard to concentrate on anyone else properly as long as sally is alive?

[Aganzir]

Okay I'm voting now.

++sally

I'm so sorry if you're innocent now and I don't feel good doing this but I just can't help suspecting you. I have no serious suspects apart from you and I feel so much will depend on your role.
I'm sorry even if you're a wolf/bear because I know on experience how frustrating it is to be suspected from the very beginning without any reasons but a bad feeling.

[Gollum the Great]

You've got a grand total of 15 minutes.

I've got a grand total of 2 votes.

[Aganzir]

Eek a quick count.

There's nine of us. If we lynch an innocent today and an innocent dies in the night, tomorrow it's four innocents, two wolves and the bear. If also the bear chooses to kill, well... Three and three in the worst case.
Although on the bright side there are still the gifteds...

[Kath]

Kath, what gave you the impression I had thought the Gwath/Bowie thing through well?

What, yesterDay? I suspect it was because you came to the same opinion as me, that Gwath didn't actually suspect Strongbow.

Also, how did I seem to flip flop apart from changing my opinion about Gwath?

I think that was the only time I thought that you'd switched opinion, it just seemed a very sudden change when I was reading through which is why it jumped out at me. It was also the way you phrased it, I've never been a fan of 'oh yes it was a plan all along' which seemed to be what you were saying.

Why did you think that Nog's failure to look involved pointed at his innocence? I think he's equally involved whatever his role, given he has enough time.

I believe a wolvish Nog would fight for a win.

Oh flip I didn't see the time!

++AGAN

Basically because she's the only person I've found anything suspicious in. The switch on Gwath yesterDay, the fact that I disagree with her about so many things.

[Gwathagor]

Ok, folks.

Well, I was about to vote Isabellkya with the reasoning that she's probably the bear, but then it occurred to me that the bear could just as easily be another player trying to cast suspicion on the less involved players by not killing. So never mind.

[Gwathagor]

Originally Posted by Strongbow

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What you may not understand is that I am trying find baddies. I'm drawing them out, to see how they reason through my un-reason. Because that's the only way we're going to be able to find them, especially in a quiet game like this. To make ludicrous, outlandish statements to see how others react to them. I have a feeling that someone might have bitten, and it was Gwath who did - he reacted in a way I did not expect. I could not trap him, and he passes that test. Now, I have to spend some time thinking up another Mad Hatter scheme and see who'll bite this time.

Oh wow, I just saw this. Interesting.

[satansaloser2005]

Okay, so I was away and not able to read a whole lot of the latest posts, for which I apologize. Fortunately I didn't die toDay, so (hopefully) I'll be around toMorrow to help.


Again, Bowie, I'm sorry, but I wasn't going to widen the vote scope any further, it's just not right, and of the three of us you were my best choice. If you're innocent I'm truly sorry. (But I hope you're not. )