Tol-in-Gaurhoth LIV: The Council of Evil

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Strongbow

Maybe I was just insAaAaAAane.

Oops.

Hehe. Silence, precious. The night ends in 25 minutes.

[Gollum the Great]

After a sleepless night spent mulling over the various issues, the Council gathered once again in the main hall. A terrible spectacle awaited them.

The chamber's one source of light, a huge iron lamp of sorts, hung in the centre of the room, over the table the Councilors sat at. And under this device, dangling from his own entrails, was Nogrod.

His eyes were burst from their orbits, his messy blood almost entirely coated him and the table, and his gaping jaw was smashed. And as the Council gazed incredulously at the gory spectacle a devil's voice laughed, but when they looked around they saw no one but themselves.


Luckily surviving:

Aganzir
Eonwe
Gwathagor
Isabellkya
Kath
Meneltarmacil
Sally
Shasta
Strongbow

Dead/gone:

Boro (inno)
Brinn (inno)
Ilya (inno)
Nogrod (inno)

[satansaloser2005]

Oh....my....

*looks at death list and lets her jaw drop to the floor*



(Back in a minute. Gonna do a quick vote tally, and I mean quick, as there weren't many votes.)

[satansaloser2005]

Votes from Day 1
Brinn-->Agan at 12:22pm
Eon-->Gwath at 3:48pm
Bowie-->Brinn at 4:50pm
Boro-->Izzy at 4:51pm
Agan-->Brinn at 4:57pm
Noggie-->Brinn at 5:00pm
Menel-->Agan at 5:06pm*
Ilya-->Brinn at 6:11pm*
Gwath-->Eon at 6:32pm*
Did not vote: Izzy, Kath, Sally, Shasta


Votes from Day 2
Sally-->Ilya at 2:24pm
Kath-->Agan at 4:31pm
Agan-->Ilya at 4:54pm
Bowie-->Ilya at 4:58pm
Ilya-->Sally at 4:58pm
Menel-->Gwath at 7:23pm*
Did not vote: Eon, Gwath, Izzy, Nog, Shasta

For those of you unfamiliar with my system, italicized villagers are known innocents and underlined villagers are known wolves, cobblers, bears, etc. Basically anyone bad.

*=vote did not count for some reason (e.g. past DL, improperly formatted, etc.)

Oh, and these are by my timezone, by the way. I'm too lazy to change them. The deadline for me is 5pm, so read the vote times accordingly.

EDIT: x'd with Miss Agan, and also added non-voters to my tally

[Aganzir]

I just realised (okay to be perfectly honest it was at least half Lommy's idea) the kills look like they were made not because of how the dead acted but what kind of reputation as players they have, what kind of impression someone gets about them when reading say old games or the grimoire, and suddenly Bowie jumps up on my suspicion list.

A newbie who's somewhat familiar to the game would just fit in there so nicely, especially if it was Shasta or Izzy who is the other wolf and he had to work alone for now.

Of course my theory is ruined if the kills are not made by the same team but apparently we can't know it.

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Aganzir

I just realised (okay to be perfectly honest it was at least half Lommy's idea) the kills look like they were made not because of how the dead acted but what kind of reputation as players they have, what kind of impression someone gets about them when reading say old games or the grimoire, and suddenly Bowie jumps up on my suspicion list.

A newbie who's somewhat familiar to the game would just fit in there so nicely, especially if it was Shasta or Izzy who is the other wolf and he had to work alone for now.

Of course my theory is ruined if the kills are not made by the same team but apparently we can't know it.

It's possible. If you get rid of the most experienced players first, it would even out the playing field for, perhaps, a newer wolf team. I don't suppose Gollum would tell us if he handpicked or randomized the roles (and to be honest, I'd rather not know right now, as it would bias me a TON) but since Gollum is newer (at least to WW on here) it might have made sense for him to pick a couple newer players. At the same time, though, I'm not going to kill someone JUST because they're newer to the game and would fit the theory.

Why else would someone kill both Boro and Noggie, though? Perhaps an old opponent? As in, someone who is more experienced rather than less, and thus knows exactly how much of a threat those two can be. Still, though, I think someone's trying to make a statement by getting rid of the loudest players.

[Aganzir]

I'm not killing Bowie because of it but he's under more careful surveillance on my part from now on.

However I agree with you someone could be making a statement by killing off the loud players at first. Silent innocents have died first often enough. Not that there are much loud players around anymore though...

However I should probably start getting home soonish and let this poor creature whose computer I'm using sleep. See you in the morning.

[Strongbow]

Originally Posted by Aganzir

I just realised (okay to be perfectly honest it was at least half Lommy's idea) the kills look like they were made not because of how the dead acted but what kind of reputation as players they have, what kind of impression someone gets about them when reading say old games or the grimoire, and suddenly Bowie jumps up on my suspicion list.

A newbie who's somewhat familiar to the game would just fit in there so nicely, especially if it was Shasta or Izzy who is the other wolf and he had to work alone for now.

Of course my theory is ruined if the kills are not made by the same team but apparently we can't know it.

If I were covered in fur, why would I be confused as to when Night ended? Tut tut. You would think, with the way I search for knowledge, that I'd know such a thing as a Wolf or Bear.

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Strongbow

If I were covered in fur, why would I be confused as to when Night ended? Tut tut. You would think, with the way I search for knowledge, that I'd know such a thing as a Wolf or Bear.

Could be a bluff.

Alternatively, if you were a wolf/bear you would want to be SURE you knew when the Night ended. And of course, you asked who died, so we could assume that you knew it wasn't you, since you asked.


Not that I'm necessarily saying that, but I'm just pointing out that the defense of "I don't know what's going on. I can't be guilty!" won't work.


I want everyone to start talking, dang it!

[Aganzir]

Just a quick post I'm at Lommy's.

Ack what's this thing. I'm not quite happy with two of the scariest loudmouths dying in a row (especially as Nog wasn't even around yesterday) and I can't see any reason why someone would want to kill them this early. In my opinion this would point at rather inexperienced (or quiet) wolves who want to get rid of the most dangerous players at first.

So did the bear still choose not to kill or do the wolves and the bear both get a kill every second night?

I find it alarming there's still two players who haven't posted (okay Shasta has net issues but just where's Izzy?).

However due to only one kill a night we're not that badly off now.