Tol-in-Gaurhoth LIV: The Council of Evil

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Aganzir

Bah people always want to get me killed by wolves! I'm much more useful alive, I tell you!

Now either I must have faulty logic toDay or... then this is físhy indeed!

[Nogrod]

If I'm around to watch you Boro toMorrow I will certainly use a magnifying glass for it! That vote was just an outrageous throw-away!

[Boromir88]

That vote was just an outrageous throw-away!~Nogrod

Yep but be sure you want to rattle this one's cage before you step into the ring.

[Nogrod]

Anyone else for Ilya?

I could settle down with Brinn as well but would favour Ilya.

Nog you always get more paranoid when the deadline draws near.

Paranoia is my second name...

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Paranoia is my second name...

Haha it's just funny that you so often seem to post one-liners throwing suspicion around when it's just a few minutes to the deadline.

[Nogrod]

Okay then.

++ Brinn


A cage for a wizard, Boro? Or is it a wolf that lurks under your cloak and is caged for reason?

[Boromir88]

The number of non-voters is ridiculous by the way.

[Aganzir]

Yeah less than half of us voted...

edit: Anyway I suppose the day is done now although Gollum isn't here to post the deadline.

[Eönwë]

Originally Posted by Boromir88

The number of non-voters is ridiculous by the way.

So true...

[Nogrod]

After such amount of back and forthing with the beginning-date + the holiday-season preparations being under way I do understand why that is - but it doesn't change the fact. Too many were not involved.

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by Eönwë

Anyway, I rejected this idea- I don't think I made i that fact clear enough in my list though (I tried to do it in the last sentence, but it obviously didn't come out right).

Yeah I understood it, I was just curious.

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Now either I must have faulty logic toDay or... then this is físhy indeed!

I was talking about my daily activity compared to many others. Sorry if I'm unclear, I'm tired.

Nog you always get more paranoid when the deadline draws near.

[Aganzir]

++Brinn

I prefer her over others who have been voted.

[Meneltarmacil]

To answer your question, Aganzir, you initially said this about Gwathagor:

Also, I'm suspicious of Gwath because of his maybe-you-knew-because-you're-the-bear comment

and then followed it up in other posts with things like this:

Guilty
Gwath. Because of that "Maybe you are the werebear and that's how you knew." suggestion.

and

I dare guess that if people were suspecting Bowie very much now because of that, you wouldn't be saying so.

Later on, however, you seemed to change your opinion with this statement:

My first comment regarding Gwath was more of an attempt to get some talk than a real suspicion.

(Gwath was clearly listed as "Guilty" by you earlier, though...)
Also, despite your discussion about Gwath with Boromir88 afterward which yielded the "Guilty" comment, you made this statement:

I was the first to come up with the subject but I haven't been pursuing him since.

Add that to the continuous suspicion of Brinniel the unjustly killed, and things don't look too good.

Well, that's all for now, as I grow weary and must retire to the giant treasure heap in my lair for some rest.

[Aganzir]

Those familiar with my playing know I always roughly divide people into Guilty, Innocent and Neither categories. One can always ask himself how much trust they should lay on these lists made before there has even been 20 posts.

My first comment regarding Gwath was an attempt to get some talk instead of a real suspicion. I tend not to be all convinced someone is a baddie just because of one weird comment, and later on I found it reasonable to change my initial opinion.

By saying I hadn't been pursuing Gwath after the start I meant I hadn't come up with new things pointing at his guilt.

On who else did I flip flop? How did I flip flop on Ilya? How was I casting suspicion on people while trying to appear I didn't?

And as for you, Menel, earlier you were all for suspecting Gwath but after hours of non-activity you came back, saying Gwath has a tendency to make suspicious comments regardless of his role, and attacking me because I changed my opinion on him. Why can you do it if I can't? I could accuse you now of flip flopping on Gwath, and vote for you, and my vote would be perfectly as just as yours for me.

Also, forget what I said about Nog not being a baddie because of Boro's death. As long as we don't know why there was just one kill (ie if the teams take turns in killing or if one team just refrained from killing for one reason or other) we can't be sure. It's still possible Nog's a baddie and it was the other team that's responsible for killing Boro.

Guilty
Menel worries me slightly but I acknowledge it is probably more due to his (in my opinion) irrational suspicion on me, plus I always find his playing style suspicious.
Ilya. Her comment that Bowie looks like he had a role was not a thing I would have expected an innocent to say. Just because it'd be dangerous for Bowie if he was, say, the seer. Also, her honesty is a thing that contributed to my suspicion on her in last game. Just because it'd be such a good cover for a newbie-ish baddie. Irrational I know but I can't help it.

Innocent
Eönwë
Gwathy. The amount of suspicion cast on him yesterday was more suspicious than his bear comment, and after that he's been looking quite innocent. Besides I take pride in being a rather good Gwolf-catcher , and he hasn't been giving off any baddie vibes thus far so I'm not worried about him.
Bowie is the one I feel the least confident about but I'm ready to consider him innocent as well.

Neither
Nog. Gah I just don't know. However one thing is sure: he didn't kill Boro.
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Isabell
Kath
sally
Shasta

Also, I can tell you it's depressing to come online after sleeping like ten hours and having breakfast and doing all kinds of stuff to be met with just one post after mine...

[Kath]

Well hello! I'm just posting to say that I will be around toDay but won't have a chance to post properly until later in the day as we have lots of RL things going on. I will return though.

[Eönwë]

I'm not really going to be able to post much today, as I won't be around at the DL, but I'll reread the thread (all 3 pages!) and see what I can come up with.

[Strongbow]

Well, after Nighttime, I'd say that the only thing that really surprises me is the number of kills. Perhaps this is what Gollum was talking about when he said that the Bear was "modified"...that it could choose when it wanted to kill, and not kill. This is a very scary thought, because WHO KNOWS when the Bear could strike now?

Anyhow:

I think Ilya's reaction to me was a bit sketch. Quoting the doorman at Bree (is his name Harry? I can never remember.), eh? Wasn't he in league with Bill Ferny, the Southrons, the Ruffians, and eventually...the Ringwraiths? Hmmm...I'm looking at you, but not too hard.

Everybody else is really illegible right now. I don't think Menel's attack on you is unwarranted, Agan, but both of you be careful, and try not to get into a Wine in Front of Me scenario. (from The Princess Bride. If you need an explanation, just ask me.)

[satansaloser2005]

("But Doctor, where is your gorgeous time travelling assistant?")

I'm here! I'm here!



Sorry, madcap couple of days, but I'm here now and need to read over things. Should be back fairly soon!