Werewolf LIII: The Republic

[Nerwen]

Hi, Brinn.

I'm terribly sorry about screwing up like that. I hope it doesn't cost us the game.

Okay, about the possible wolf: whoever it is has been very clever and not left much of a trail, so it's hard to make a real case.

If it's Lommy, we're already dead, obviously, so there's no point discussing her.

So, I have to assume it's either Brinn or Greenie.

Of the two... Brinniel has been very helpful with quotes and analyses, but as I recall that's a thing she does when she's a wolf, too... doesn't really point either way. Against her there's her pushing for the fixed number of reps scheme, which struck me as weird and distracting at the time.


Greenie... has slipped under the radar until recently. I don't think I can add to the cases Brinn and Lommy have made on her. Half Lommy's case is just "disturbing use of smilies"

And yes, her interaction with known wolves could mean something. At #504 (already quoted in part by Brinn and Lommy) she talks about Nogrod and also about morm:

This just reminds me of the legendary "I've never been a wolf before" -slip. However I'm inclined to believe this is not a wolf slip of morm about his fellow Gil, but mere careless phrasing. Nevertheless it caught my eye and I thought to point it out.

So... she's used what could be the suspect/defend tactic on two known wolves. (But both in the same post... to risky?)

[Thinlómien]

Nerwen you are exactly not helping.

And neither is the ever silent (and ever hiding?) Greenie.

If you all could tell me who you suspect the most and why, it'd help.

Grr... I was thinking we'd win this with a double lynch but now I'm pretty sure we lose... because it is in my hands in the end and I always screw things up.

But like I've said before, it doesn't really matter so much if we lose. I think the wolf deserves it if she wins.

Please, everybody, tell me your opinion of why it was Kath who died last Night (and not me, for example).

Anyway, I'm going to be here now for a couple of hours and then I'm coming back rather late my time, around 8 or 9 pm GMT. And when I come back, I really want to see some serious posting and discussing by everybody *glares at Nerwen and Greenie*. Otherwise I cannot decide which one of you is a wolf.

I'm still least suspicious of Brinn. Of Greenie and Nerwen I don't know... I used to suspect Greenie more but Nerwen's late posts haven't been quite convincing. And I know I could very well reverse my opinion on Brinn too...

Hey wolf, you're a bit too good at this.

PS. I don't want to be tempted to vote Greenie because I'd hate losing to her the most...

[A Little Green]

So we won't have the double-lynch after all? Don't lose hope, we can still win - though certainly not if Lommy keeps suspecting me. Please ask me questions and I try to answer as well as I can. Obviously I can't defend myself from arguments like "disturbing use of smiley".

Originally Posted by Lommy

THE Ka? Interesting...

She also makes a nice turn from trusting THE Ka to finding her creepy with whatsoever no reasoning. Why? Do you still remember, Greenie?

Trusting THE Ka? I don't think I ever mentioned trusting her, or actually trusting anyone on the first half of Day 1. I don't trust people on Day 1. About Ka anyway - she had posted one post that far if I recall correctly, two at most, so I don't find it right surprising if my opinion about her changes as I see more of her.

Originally Posted by Lommy

the ever silent (and ever hiding?) Greenie.

The ever-studying Greenie, more likely - like I already said and like you of all people should know, I have eight and a half hours of school today in case that explains why I haven't been saying anything yet. I'm now having a break but won't be around properly for another few hours as I have a few things I definitely need to do after school eg. buying schoolbooks and stuff like that.

Sorry to sound so cross. I'm not annoyed with the game but with something else. I'll post something proper in a few hours when I get home.

[A Little Green]

I'm back - didn't buy the books after all since I was all too tired. Well anyway, about who I suspect then. I don't suspect Lommy, which leaves Nerwen and Brinn as possible wolves. I can't choose between them.

Brinn's activity and annoyance at others being quiet/unproductive speaks for her innocence, but mostly from yesterDay and the Day before I got a bad feeling about her, I'll go and try to find exact quotes since that's no use as an argument.

Good points have been raised about Nerwen, especially her reactions to things that have happened looking fabricated etc, but I still think her continuous row with morm speaks for her innocence rather than against it. Hmmm...

I need to think still. As for how much I'm able to be here toDay, well, I have a few school things to do and such and I suppose darling Lommy wants to post once she gets back home from work, but otherwise I'll be more or less around all evening. Is there anyone here except for me?

[A Little Green]

Actually this is funny. The more I read Brinn's posts, the more she starts to look innocent to me. But if she's innocent like she now looks, that logically means that Nerwen is the wolf. Could she be? Argh. I don't know. But since both Lommy and Brinn look more innocent than she does, I guess it's her. My reread of yesterDay and the Day before it (mainly concentrating on Brinn, but skimming Nerwen as well) made Brinn look better and Nerwen slightly worse.


EDIT: Still no one here? I love triple posting and all, but still it would be nice to have someone to talk to...

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

Nerwen you are exactly not helping.

I'm trying, Lommy. As I said, the wolf hasn't left much of a trail.

Clearly it's not you (unless you're turned really sadistic), so it's either Brinn or Greenie.

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

If you all could tell me who you suspect the most and why, it'd help.

I've been thinking about it a bit more, and I'm inclined to think it's Greenie. Actually I suppose I know what you mean about the "disturbing smilies"; maybe it's the reason for my "bad feeling" about her that I mentioned earlier... she's just been too ingratiating and kept out of things too much.

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

Grr... I was thinking we'd win this with a double lynch but now I'm pretty sure we lose... because it is in my hands in the end and I always screw things up.

Well, you can blame me. I feel like lynching myself.

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

Please, everybody, tell me your opinion of why it was Kath who died last Night (and not me, for example).

It's very strange... I actually started to worry about you, when you turned out to be still alive.

Well, Kath said this #1861:

Originally Posted by Kath

I'm not convinced about Nerwen ... but then I'm not convinced about anyone. Something that Greenie said earlier, when she was very against lynching Gil, brought her up on my suspicion list while Brinn went down it. I mean there are times where you look pretty suspicious as well Lommy, especially with your 'evidence' earlier on.

So... Brinnwolf making herself look good?

A Little Wolf trying get rid of a future opponent?

Or is it that the wolf felt more confident of being able to manipulate Lommy than Kath?

EDIT: grammar.

EDIT: X'd with two Greenies.

[A Little Green]

I've been thinking about it a bit more, and I'm inclined to think it's Greenie. Actually I suppose I know what you mean about the "disturbing smilies"; maybe it's the reason for my "bad feeling" about her that I mentioned earlier... she's just been too ingratiating and kept out of things too much.

I can't help but think this looks very easy. If Nerwen is the wolf, this is exactly what she would want to do. I'm the one Lommy is considering of voting, and I think Nerwen is another she has considered at least at some point. Therefore encouraging suspicion of the innocent our rep considers voting is precisely what I would do as a wolf in that position as well. No, I'm not saying an innocent Nerwen couldn't suspect me; I'm just saying that it would fit a wolf-Nerwen more than well.
As to your reasons for suspecting me - being ingratiating (had to check that on the dictionary ) is just due to my playing style. Unless I'm really annoyed with something or someone I like to be nice to people and to soften otherwise nasty-sounding remarks with those so-called disturbing smilies. I have been suspected because of that in other games as well, but I'm afraid this is the only explanation I can give. Keeping out of things is mostly due to being extremely busy - or actually, what do you mean by keeping out of things?

[Nerwen]

Well, when I said, "keeping out of things," I meant more that you've been sleeping under the reindeer.

So, how nice, we both suspect each other.

All I know is, unless Lommywolf is screwing with our heads, it has to be either you or Brinn.

Brinniel's posts look pretty good toDay... but I have had reservations about her on and off, mostly based on tiny things... and as I said, long analyses are a thing she does when she's a wolf. I still think Greenie is the more likely.

[A Little Green]

Something struck me as odd in Nerwen's suspicion of me. I found it. Here:

Originally Posted by Nerwen earlier toDay

Greenie... has slipped under the radar until recently. I don't think I can add to the cases Brinn and Lommy have made on her. Half Lommy's case is just "disturbing use of smilies"

Originally Posted by Nerwen

I've been thinking about it a bit more, and I'm inclined to think it's Greenie. Actually I suppose I know what you mean about the "disturbing smilies"; maybe it's the reason for my "bad feeling" about her that I mentioned earlier... she's just been too ingratiating and kept out of things too much.

This I think is an interesting turnaround. In the first quote she seems very sceptical about Lommy's argument; then, later on, when I'm on Lommy's suspicion list, the smiley thing suddenly makes sense to her. It's just weird.

Originally Posted by Nerwen

Well, when I said, "keeping out of things," I meant more that you've been sleeping under the reindeer.

Ah well. People keep saying that about me. I've never been and will probably never be a flood-poster or mass-analyser or attention-seeker, and thus it's very probable that most players' attention is not focused on me as much as some others. I'm afraid that's all I have to say about it.

Your reasoning about why I'm your top suspect sounds sensible regardless of your role and leaves me with (surprise surprise) two choices: either you are the wolf, as I'm inclined to guess, and try to get me lynched because I'm practically the only innocent you could persuade Lommy to lynch since she seems to trust Brinn; or then you are as innocent as I am and Brinn is the wolf and snickers happily while we are at each other's throats. Of course it's also possible that Lommy is the wolf, but if she is we have lost already so it isn't worth speculating.

[Thinlómien]

Okay, I'm here, mes amies. I've been thinking but I'm still darn confused... You'll see me posting once I've eaten and possibly cleared my head with that a bit.