The Middle Earth Popularity Cup

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

Beleg is cooler. . .not that I dislike Maggot even though evil rumors have him picked as an Evertonian.

I think Beleg could have died in a better way though. . . I know that the whole killed by a friend is very dramatic, but in my head it would be much better if him and Maglor died side by side fighting the sons of Feanor.
I don't know why, but keep picturing such a sceen.

Anyways if I want mushrooms picked I can do it my self, if I need orcs killed then I will call on Beleg! Ergo he is of much more use to me.

++Beleg

EDIT: I forgot to check about deadlines and such

(I see that Beleg already won. . .bah I will let the post stay)

[the phantom]

Oops. I didn't realize there was a deadline. Did Beleg win?

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

Originally Posted by the phantom

Oops. I didn't realize there was a deadline. Did Beleg win?

5 votes and you win, so Beleg won with your vote.

[Tuor in Gondolin]

Not meaning to be petty, but it
must be ++Mim , praps Gollum
was right about nassty elvsees attacking
nice small peoples. And Pippin seemed to
get along nicely with the mean nassty hobbit.

[mormegil]

I see no problem in continuing without Skip...what would be fun *looks at some of our Downer artists* is to get some nice brackets. Tummy, here is an idea why don't we do our own version of March Madness here on the downs?

Anyway between Mim and Pippin

++Mim

Less a vote for Mim, while he is an interesting character, but more a vote against Pippin. Is there a worse hobbit in the whole world? I doubt it, he's mundane and predictable. He nearly destroys the whole point of the fellowship multiple times. The only real accomplishment he can claim is slaying a troll but first off who hasn't slain a troll? Also, his was more on accident than an actual feat of prowress and cunning.

[Gollum the Great]

I can't pick between the two up for vote right now. But I will say that:

Originally Posted by mormegil

Also, his was more on accident than an actual feat of prowress and cunning.

I think that just charging the Olog was courageous.

[the phantom]

Originally Posted by morm

Tummy, here is an idea why don't we do our own version of March Madness here on the downs?

I will give that some thought. I'll write at the top of a blank page in my notebook "Middle Earth March Madness" so I remember.

[skip spence]

Originally Posted by mormegil

I see no problem in continuing without Skip...what would be fun *looks at some of our Downer artists* is to get some nice brackets.

Neither do I and yes, brackets would be nice.

The choice between Mim and Pippin is tough. No, actually it isn't. Pippin is a little brat, isn't he - dangit he's almost 30 years old but still acts as if he's on a field trip with school, goofing around and learning nothing. Mim is the last of his kind, fortunately perhaps given his treacherous ways, but you can't help feeling sorry for the old bugger, can you? And in a way the outlaws had it coming, didn't they? Bad deeds lead to more bad deeds and all...

'nuff said, ++Mim

That makes it 3-0 to the Petty Dwarf. Is an upset on the tables?

[Nerwen]

++Pippin.

At least he's honest.

[Groin Redbeard]

Originally Posted by mormegil

Also, his was more on accident than an actual feat of prowress and cunning.

Well, at least he showed the courage to actually fight him. You will notice that this particular feat alone shows the vast change that Pippin has made since going on his adventures with Frodo. I think we can give him some credit here, after all he was still in his "tweens".

Let's see here, Pippin has always been an adorable character to me (my little brother is just like him) and although he can be foolish, he can, at times, be very resourceful. After all I credit the escape of Merry and Pippin from the Uruk-Hai chiefly to Pippin: it was he who dropped his elven brooch for the Three Hunters to find and it was he who first cut his bonds off with the edge of a sword.

Mim, has always been an exception for me. I mainly defend Dwarves with a passion but with Mim I have difficulties doing. He may have had good reasons for hating Beleg, and even Turin, but Mim I would say is an evil Dwarf (Tolkien in the beginning drafted the Dwarf race as evil so this shouldn't be a surprise). I cannot vote for someone who had dealings with the enemy and caused such pain to those in his household. Hurin was right to slay him at Nargathrond...

This was a difficult choice, but I'm going with ++Fool of a Took for his ability to learn from mistakes and to see his character transform from that of a fool to wise young Hobbit.

[mormegil]

Originally Posted by Groin Redbeard

Well, at least he showed the courage to actually fight him. You will notice that this particular feat alone shows the vast change that Pippin has made since going on his adventures with Frodo. I think we can give him some credit here, after all he was still in his "tweens".

But the whole time he was belly-aching and only wanted to be there to prove how courageous he supposedly was when in face he was a coward. He did not rush off to meet them, don't think of the movie, he waited and the only thing he did was hold up his sword and poach the kill that Aragorn was getting.

Originally Posted by Groin Redbeard

Let's see here, Pippin has always been an adorable character to me (my little brother is just like him) and although he can be foolish, he can, at times, be very resourceful. After all I credit the escape of Merry and Pippin from the Uruk-Hai chiefly to Pippin: it was he who dropped his elven brooch for the Three Hunters to find and it was he who first cut his bonds off with the edge of a sword.

What an idiot Pippin was! To drop such a gift is wholly irresponsibly and shows the lack of sense. If he only understood what great trackers both Aragorn and Legolas were he would have known that there was no need to drop such a gift. Also, think of the litter factor, it is well documented that Pippin is the first litterer in all of Middle-earth. Up until then nobody even thought of littering...you should have seen the rubbish heaps that formed in Hobbiton after word of this dead was relayed to them by Pippin...he caused an epidemic himself.

You, sir, are a dwarf hater and only voted Pippin because Mim is a dwarf.

Incidentally I believe the voting for Pippin and Mim is over and Pippin is off to the gallows but I cannot resist a good rip at the old Pippin.

[Morthoron]

++ Mim

To me. in many respects he is reminiscent of Shylock in the Merchant of Venice, a tragic figure caught up in revenge and grief. He's more of a layered character than Pippin, and the side-history (or lack thereof) of the petty-dwarves is intriguing as well. Petty-dwarves...rather redundant.