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Old 11-18-2008, 11:43 AM   #1
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May I suggest that this thread is made "sticky"?
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Old 11-18-2008, 03:20 PM   #2
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I believe the problem is anonymous reputations. Perhaps if the reputations are automatically tagged with the poster giving the rep, it would alleviate the 'drive-by' unconstructive attacks. If you are going to be juvenile, at least have the guts to reveal your immaturity to the community.

I will have to say that, save for only a few completely inappropriate reps, I have been gratified, or at least amused, by the majority of the reps I have been given.
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Old 11-19-2008, 08:10 AM   #3
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It would be nice if people would be able to see negative reps as constructive criticism instead of feeling personally offended by them. That would take the sting out of an occasional red box. Of course, it would mean that those members giving negative reps should include comments giving their reasons for not approving of a particular post, and of course they should stand up to their opinion by signing.

I much prefer to give positive reps and usually do so, but when necessary I do give negative reps with comments and signature. I hope that members will think about them and improve the quality of their posts accordingly.


Two general aspects:

1. All members (ought to) know the forum rules; if not, they can read them. If they do not adhere to them, they should *expect* negative reps and comments.

2. Any crackpot can distribute negative reps that the recipient does not deserve. (I've gotten some from disgruntled members.) If you get one that is unjustified, just realize that it means absolutely *nothing*. It says something about the person sending it, not you. You can afford to lose a point - just post something amazingly good and you'll catch up again very quickly.


Reasons you could get negative reps:

1. You have not adhered to forum rules. (see above) Solution: Change your ways.

2. You have expressed your opinion in an inappropriate manner. Solution: Learn to be more tactful; be more objective and less personal in saying your opinion; avoid direct attacks on other members; make allowance for different opinions and the right of others to express theirs.

3. Another member disagrees with your opinion. Reason: The other member has not understood the reason for the reputation system. You have the right to express your own thoughts without being criticized for being different. Solution: Live with it - don't take it seriously. Above all, don't whine or retaliate. If you post well, you'll make up for a lost point soon.

4. Someone doesn't like you. Solution: Check for possible aggressive posting on your behalf; if there is none, ignore the person. Get some positive reps to make up for it. (see below)


Ways to get positive reps:

1. Make a good contribution to a discussion, with appropriate explanations, perhaps even quotes to support your opinion.

2. Tell something about your personal experience with Tolkien's works - touch others' hearts.

3. Make me laugh!
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Old 11-19-2008, 02:20 PM   #4
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Make me laugh!
The infuriating inundation
Of anonymous condemnation
Causes undue exasperation,
Whilst reducing one's reputation --
Wasting fawning solicitations
Expended on fishing for commendations!
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Old 11-22-2008, 01:09 PM   #5
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One more way to get positive reps:

4. Be generous in repping others. As the reply says, you may get some in return!*

(Then again, you may not - but as is also said, "It is more blessed to give...")


*Here's the exact quote:
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May you be lucky enough to receive the same Reputation back in turn.
Wait a minute, what does that say about negative repping?!
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Old 11-22-2008, 02:27 PM   #6
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I've only just worked out how to give rep again on this bloomin' Mac of davem's!
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Old 11-22-2008, 04:00 PM   #7
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Honestly, I never paid much attention to the rep system until recently. I wasn't on the forum much when it was introduced, and pretty much forgot about it. I'm trying to amend things though, letting people know when I particularly like their contributions.
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Old 11-22-2008, 04:51 PM   #8
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One more way to get positive reps:

4. Be generous in repping others. As the reply says, you may get some in return!
To get more rep, rep female posters, as shown here. Isn't scientific analysis a wonderful thing?

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2. Any crackpot can distribute negative reps that the recipient does not deserve.
Why can't we find a crackpot or two that distributes positive rep, at least one in a while?
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Old 11-22-2008, 05:29 PM   #9
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To get more rep, rep female posters, as shown here. Isn't scientific analysis a wonderful thing?
Well the percentages of 45% vs. 55% are within quite small margins, don't you think?

And that's a kind of a scientific reasoning behind that question as well. Think carefully which margins make a difference so that you should trust there is something in there...
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Old 11-22-2008, 07:02 PM   #10
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Why can't we find a crackpot or two that distributes positive rep, at least one in a while?
Perhaps we can encourage a crackpot or two with an actual diploma after he or she demonstrates facility with positive crackpottery?



PS: I am trying to resize this smaller but so far have had little luck.

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May you be lucky enough to receive the same Reputation back in turn.
Wait a minute, what does that say about negative repping?!
Sounds suspiciously like an eye for an eye to me.
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