Tol-in-Gaurhoth LII: Star Crossed II: Together for Eternity

[Aganzir]

Hmm of course I could analyse my own posts.

Agan's a baddie cause she was the first one to talk and says she's sorry for Di's death. I suggest lynching her.

Or then let's lynch Gwath. He's always a good choice.

In truth Agan and Gwath are lovers and Agan's just trying to double bluff since no one's going to take these first few posts seriously anyway.
Now she said it aloud so it's a triple bluff.

The sex ratio here on our pretty little island should be 9/10 (hey Gollum are you male or female?). In case Di has decided to play it chaste and hasn't paired up people of the same sex, we can systematically execute members of one sex in order to kill the lovers effectively.

edit: ooh xed with Fea

[Macalaure]

I agree with Aganzir: we should lynch Aganzir today.


Well, since Di hasn't informed us about any significant changes in the rules, I guess the basics are the same: four couples of lovers, each equipped with the ability to kill at night. There is once again going to be ridiculous slaughter during the first nights and everyone who makes it til day3 can consider himself lucky.

The one lynch we poor little lonely hearts have looks quite pitiful compared with the four kills a night our evildoers have. The good thing is that the were-creatures and their lovers seek to kill each other at least as much as they seek to kill innocents. Each couple is more likely to be killed by another couple than by us! They're each other's worst enemy.

Eventually, it will come down to a situation of one were-couple against a few innocents. We're unlikely to have contributed much to the deaths of the others, but at that point, the outcome is in our hands again. In fact, as hopeless and kill-outnumbered as we are now, our chances then will be rather good, with two possible targets.

However this ends, it is going to be interesting.


Oh, and in the first part, same-sex couple were allowed, so I would suppose it's the same this time.

[Aganzir]

Mac you're evil, you weren't allowed to say so! It's a privilege reserved to me. I'll remove your name instantly from my top 18 list.

Hmm if they are allowed (Di! How immoral of you!) then my little plan doesn't work. Gah.

I think Mac is a baddie because he just talks about game dynamics which is a good way to appear helpful without really being it. Besides he's trying to dishearten us by saying that we're unlikely to contribute much to the deaths of the were-creatures. He could for example accuse people instead!

[Macalaure]

Originally Posted by Aganzir

He could for example accuse people instead!

Originally Posted by me

we should lynch Aganzir today.

Hmmm?

You in turn seem to be quite over-eager to accuse, my dear.


By the way, I think it's quite sensible to discuss game dynamics when you haven't even reached post 10 yet. I daresay it's more helpful than just bantering - though maybe not as funny, I admit.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

And as it looks, post 10 won't come yet for a long while (EDIT: okay, x-ed, now it doesn't fit that much anymore). To say something serious, in contrary to most things which have been told here: I agree that speaking about game dynamics is nothing bad, at least to me, Mac's post helped to kind of sort my thoughts. But then, I think not much further discussion on that topic is needed. So, let's try not to make it the main topic from now on.

Now to say something even more serious: bxcblamsxfrt.

Okay, that'd be it from me now. Let's see if anybody else shows up. Hopefully they will.

...
P.S. Especially for some people, just a preventive note: no, we are not.

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

And as it looks, post 10 won't come yet for a long while (EDIT: okay, x-ed, now it doesn't fit that much anymore). To say something serious, in contrary to most things which have been told here: I agree that speaking about game dynamics is nothing bad, at least to me, Mac's post helped to kind of sort my thoughts. But then, I think not much further discussion on that topic is needed. So, let's try not to make it the main topic from now on.

Now to say something even more serious: bxcblamsxfrt.

Okay, that'd be it from me now. Let's see if anybody else shows up. Hopefully they will.

...
P.S. Especially for some people, just a preventive note: no, we are not.

Yeah, like that makes any sense. He's just trying to confuse us. Let's kill him.



All in all, it seems rather quiet(ish). Sorry I wasn't around first thing this Morning but I decided to crash early and then I didn't get up at like 4am like I planned. (That's right. 4am. To play Werewolf. Gah, I'm a strange little one.)


I think I'll pop out to class and hope it's a bit louder when I return. Either way, I'll post something more then.


EDIT: x'd with Legate. Sweetie, are you sick? Because you aren't making a lick of sense.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by Kitanna

But in seriousness (even if for a moment) is the idea that Lommy and Legate had jumped out to a few people. I want to take a look into those who suggested it and Lommy and Legate themselves. I see nothing particularly odd about either so I'd like to see what makes them so suspicious to the few (sally and Mac I remember off the bat) who brought them up.

I don't think a serious person may believe anything like that, unless it is a mass conspiracy, in which case: stop that! Just for this reason, and after the experience from the last game, I put this into my very first post in this game:

Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

P.S. Especially for some people, just a preventive note: no, we are not.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

I was under the impression that we're not allowed to know the particulars of roles at all.

Originally Posted by Di

Beware -- the truth of what is happening is shrouded in mystery. You cannot know how many among you are murderous, or who among you are there to help and protect. You must search for clues among each night’s happenings.

Ie: we may or may not have a bazillion wolves, we could all, in fact, be wolves, maybe secretly nobody is? We're all for ourselves? This is just me exaggerating, but the point it: we don't actually know how many bad guys are amongst us.

This reminds me of the game I ran when both my wolves were dead in the first day or so and I didn't want to end so I just didn't bother revealing roles and let the village kill itself. Last man standing won (Saucie). Di, I merely assume roles will be revealed upon death?

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by Macalaure

You in turn seem to be quite over-eager to accuse, my dear.

Yesss. I love blood.
And your agreeing we should lynch me wasn't an accusation - it was a nasty joke which made me very sad. *sniff*

Originally Posted by Mac

By the way, I think it's quite sensible to discuss game dynamics when you haven't even reached post 10 yet.

Me too. I was just trying to come up with a reason to accuse you. You know, everything can be used against you and such. Maybe you're just a were-creature trying to be sensible.

Originally Posted by Feanor of the Peredhil

I was under the impression that we're not allowed to know the particulars of roles at all.

Oops, I should probably have read the narration a bit more closely. From now on I promise to be nice and read everything well.

Anyway I'm off to do something else now, see you later.

[Macalaure]

Originally Posted by Aganzir

And your agreeing we should lynch me wasn't an accusation - it was a nasty joke which made me very sad. *sniff*

Aww... *hands Aganzir a tissue* *hug*

Friends?

Oops, I should probably have read the narration a bit more closely.

Me, too.


And Legate is sending secret messages and using a strange language in his post. Veeery suspicious.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

No, no, let me make this clear. First, this is no secret language. It is a part of common education to know it. Second, these are no secret messages. You may as well ignore that.

Now, to say something constructive: a crane.

No, please, people, come and post. The fact that this far, just five people showed up, and one of them is dead, has probably bad impact on me.

[Gwathagor]

Originally Posted by Aganzir

Or then let's lynch Gwath. He's always a good choice.

Har har.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by Gwathagor

Har har.

Now I would stop that if I were you; there's five pages in front of you and if you are going to stop like that by every post, you are not going to finish reading even the first page in these eight hours that remain till DL...

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

In an instant... wasn't that what we were here for in the first place?

Yes. There are some people who claim we can't pair up if we didn't do it in the very beginning, but who's going to listen to them?

Originally Posted by Gwathagor

Har har.

[Aganzir]

I think Lommy's vote is made with possibly the worst grounds thus far. Not that Eomer looked very innocent, but he definitely didn't look that suspicious either.

Although there had been some suspicion on Rikae, Eomer was the first to vote her. And so what if he's not coming back today?

He could have given some reasoning for his vote, but I wouldn't go as far as to call it "not innocentish".

I was fairly sure I'd vote for Mac but now I actually feel more like voting Lommy.

edit: I forgot to mention I'll hang around still for a short while now and cast my vote then

[Lalaith]

Right, it's bedtime for me.


I want to know what Legate's up to, his posts feel so odd, they aren't making sense to me at all. I also want to know what Agan is up to and I am getting more worried about Fea.
Then there are Groin and Sally, who worried me earlier. (Eonwe too, although he is now worrying me less.)

Well, I will go for
++LEGATE

[Aganzir]

++Lommy

Votes

Eomer: Rikae
Kitanna: Rikae (2)
Greenie: Groin
Mac: Lommy
Eönwë: Legate
Lommy: Eomer
Lalaith: Legate (2)
Agan: Lommy (2)

11 still to vote.

If I die, either by lynching or in the night, I hope you don't forget Lommy (if she's alive), or Mac, Rikae or Fea. Or Groin.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by Lalaith

I want to know what Legate's up to, his posts feel so odd, they aren't making sense to me at all. I also want to know what Agan is up to and I am getting more worried about Fea.

And care to explain what do you mean by "what is ***** up to"? What does it mean "his posts feel so odd"? I mean, what kind of a reasoning is that? "I am going to vote Lalaith. Her posts are yellow and taste of cinnamon." Sure you won't accept that kind of a reasoning???

EDIT: x-ed with Agan

[Lalaith]

All right, to be clearer: my suspicions are often directed at those who I feel are being confusing, possibly deliberately so, and for a purpose. Is that better?
Now I really must go to bed, I am tired and will start getting confused even more easily. If I am still here after toNight, I bid you au revoir and au demain, dear Lonely Hearts.

.

[Gwathagor]

Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

And care to explain what do you mean by "what is ***** up to"? What does it mean "his posts feel so odd"? I mean, what kind of a reasoning is that? "I am going to vote Lalaith. Her posts are yellow and taste of cinnamon." Sure you won't accept that kind of a reasoning???

I don't know, Legate...if Lalaith's posts actually tasted like cinnamon, I would become very suspicious indeed.

Still: intuition is as much a part of the game as logic, and always complements the latter.


So I thought I was going to vote for Macalaure, but I've discovered that only his very first couple of posts seem jumpy/defensive. His later posts don't, so I can't vote him in good conscience now. Better go read some more.

[Nogrod]

Oh, I just had to put this first to you Agan as it really gave me the creeps when I was going to bed last night but didn't bother to go on posting about it anymore:

Originally Posted by Aganzir

Yes. There are some people who claim we can't pair up if we didn't do it in the very beginning, but who's going to listen to them?

Why the need to underline that you were not paired up with anyone in the beginning?

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Oh, I just had to put this first to you Agan as it really gave me the creeps when I was going to bed last night but didn't bother to go on posting about it anymore: Why the need to underline that you were not paired up with anyone in the beginning?

Because Lommy jokingly complained to me (on MSN) about that I always want to marry her relatives and asked if I didn't know that we couldn't get paired unless it had happened in the beginning, so it just came there. I don't think it was illegal talk since it only had to do with a joke of mine, not the game itself.

edit: xed with Greenie

[Thinlómien]

I've got to go now.

I'm going to give Mac the benefit of doubt whether that's wise or not.

++Eomer

Because he has only posted once, joined a bandwagon-ish thing, said little and probably won't be coming back.

Not very innocentish, not to speak about being constructive.


edit: xed with Legate