Tol-in-Gaurhoth L: Battle of the Fandoms

[Nogrod]

Looking at the voting against wolves kind of assured me about a few things. I'm not saying there couldn't have been WoW -votes but looking at the tightness of the race on Day1 I find it quite improbable there (and at least Sally actually tried to save her mate). On Day3 it would be quite suicidal from a wolf to help her/his last mate to go down however good it might look as playing alone against 9 innocents would be the least s/he would wish for (I have tried it once so I know what I'm talking about - I had no chance even if I think I played pretty well).

And looking at the votes on Day3 it seems also that every vote in a way put Sally into the lead which would be dangerous indeed (well, not Mac's vote but he had put CoD to a late lead on Day1 - and mine could be seen as just trying to save myself which is in a way also true).

So.

Voted CoD Day1

McCaber (first vote for CoD when voting was spreading wide)
Isabell (put him to the shared lead)
Macalaure (put CoD to the lead)
Mith (chose CoD over Boro – nailed it)

Voted Sally on Day3

Rikae (known innocent started it)
McCaber (brought Sally into a shared lead)
Nilp (brought Sally into a shared lead)
Nogrod (put Sally in the lead, ahead of himself)
Macalaure (confirmed Sally’s death)



So I'm tempted to say that now as we have only one wolf left I will leave

McCaber
Isabell
Macalaure
Mith
Nilp

in peace unless they do something that really raises my eyebrows.

Adding to the list

Boro

for reasons explained in my last post will leave me with four candidates for wolvery:

Shasta
Fëa
Lalwendë
Nerwen

I'm not promising to eat my hat or anything like that but I will be really surprised if the wolf is not one among the four listed there.

[Lalwendë]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Looking at the voting against wolves kind of assured me about a few things. I'm not saying there couldn't have been WoW -votes but looking at the tightness of the race on Day1 I find it quite improbable there (and at least Sally actually tried to save her mate). On Day3 it would be quite suicidal from a wolf to help her/his last mate to go down however good it might look

I can't rule out page 4 because the evidence is that strong there. No need to look for any kind of mad theories, it's there. All you have to see is that two were going down and one had to be chosen - it's just working out which player thought which other player was in which role.

However I cannot see any reason why, apart from desperation, a wolf would vote WoW, so for me, this rules out Mac and McCaber completely. Anyone else still needs looking at.

[Boromir88]

Lal, since you are without question the cobbler, I'm going to treat you like others treat me when I'm a known wolf. Have fun talking to yourself dear, keep yapping, if it so pleases you. I refuse to go another day bantering with you.

I suggest everyone else do the same.

[Boromir88]

Nerwen, you're going to have some answering to do...

I was having a serious think about voting for the de facto cobbler– that's what Lalwendë is, whatever her official role– just to get her out of the way– but I think I'll go with

++Boromir88

Not only is it another throw away vote from you (like Day 2's vote), but if you believed Lal was the cobbler, why would you think I'm a wolf? I've been after her for over 3 days. Sure the wolves and cobbler don't know eachother, but if you believed so strongly Lal is the cobbler than what's your justification for me being a wolf?

I'm going to have a good long look at Nogrod, sorry, while I agree with your list, and it looks right to me, you can't expect me to exactly find you the most trustworthy person in this situation.

[Isabellkya]

Briefly, I’d like to get this out of my system right away; since I’ve been simmering over it since yesterDay after work.

Originally Posted by #300

Isabell, McCaber, Rikae and Lalwendë are pretty consistent all the time. Now that might look good to a hasty player but in the end only the wolves have an easy time being consistent as they know what they are doing... ~Nog

Boro vote Day 1: Lal
Boro vote Day 2: Lal
Boro vote Day 3: Lal

So, first question. Why isn’t Boro on your list of consistency? When you made that post; he’d already voted for her two days in a row. Why leave him out?

Originally Posted by #328

Izzy, I've been after Lal since Day 1…. ~Boro

Fea vote Day 1: Boro
Fea vote Day 2: Boro

Second question. Why isn’t Fea on your list of consistency? She has been after Boro since Day 1.

Originally Posted by #300

Fëa's insistence on lynching Boro is either having fun with him with no better options around or a perfect wolf-hide. Last time I suspected her on somewhat similar grounds and we lynched her she was an ordo though, so I'm going to be a bit more careful this time with her as long as I'm along in this game. ~Nog

You mentioned it here, but seemed to pawn it off.

Is it just the ‘consistency’ aimed in your direction which you find suspicious, and take note of?
I think you are guilty of this ‘consistency’, which you seem to be paranoid of.

I think, the only reason I wouldn’t vote for you today - is because WolfSally put you in the lead, for two days in a row.

But toDay, it looks like you've got some of the paranoia out of you.


Edit. Fixed a tag.

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Boromir88

If you believed Lal was the cobbler, why would you think I'm a wolf? I've been after her for over 3 days. Sure the wolves and cobbler don't know eachother, but if you believed so strongly Lal is the cobbler than what's your justification for me being a wolf?

I said de facto cobbler– meaning that she was causing confusion. I did not say I "felt strongly" she was a cobbler. Don't put words into my mouth, please.

Besides, just because I genuinely suspected her doesn't mean you couldn't have been a wolf feigning suspicion.

But that was yesterDay. Now that we know Sally was a wolf I guess that clears you of lupinity– I agree with Nogrod on that one (though he's come up with some pretty dodgy reasoning this game).

EDIT: X'd with Isabellkya

[McCaber]

So are we finally clear that Mac and Iare innocent? Good.

Now that we're all on the same page, I think I can afford to take it easy for a few hours and think it out for a while. 2 gifted and 8 other innocent versus 1 lone wolf - I like our odds.

And I figure that between the mob killings and the seer dreams we can kill/exonerate the five (or so) SPs (suspicious persons) remaining without much difficulty. I hope it doesn't come to that, though.

[Shastanis Althreduin]

My post didn't go through... I sent it through hours ago... maybe my internet acted up.

Now that it's 1 in the morning, I'm a bit tired and not inclined to re-type the whole thing. The gist: I still don't like Nogrod, but as Sally (really, dear? really?) was a wolf, it puts him in a more innocent light. I do like and agree with his list (even if I am on it, ).

Hopefully will post more on the morrow, depending on how early I wake up.