Scarburg Meadhall Discussion Thread

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Folwren

I did not comprehend. Can you explain it again? Sorry.

Okay.

The next day Thornden mentions the decision the parents and himself had reached the last night - and possibly askes for the approval of lord Eodwine for the archery-practises (so individual punishments for all given by parents to their children and possibly by Thornden to Javan - and the decision to try and make their relations better with the quite useful archery training).

Now only at this moment does lord Eodwine learn that Javan has been in a fight. There had been such a number of events the day before that he had never heard about it (I mean there really was!).

Learning that (about the boys having a fight and then the parents & Thornden meeting) he then takes it to his responsibility to talk to them all - and especially Javan (in a way lmp describes in his post here just a few posts above - #541 to be exact).

And then the archery-training goes on.

Or that's the way I see it right now. I guess this is open to any suggestions.

[littlemanpoet]

Nogrod, it sounds as if you're suggesting that we build a community post right here on the discussion thread. Is that your idea? That could be pretty interesting: 1 writer starts it, then another copies and pastes the start into her/his post and adds to it, and so on until the discussing group is satisfied with the whole thing, and those writers who are not involved get to see the thing grow. I quite like the idea.

Or, are you suggesting that we could just discuss and agree as to what happened when, with a timeline (perhaps) being set down back to which everyone can refer?

[Nogrod]

I was indeed talking about the latter option you suggest lmp. So we make the things clear here as to what happened and then people refer to that adding their own to it in the thread. That would give us air for everyone's personal points of view and might get the relations nicely forwards.

But your idea about a "community post" sounds intriguing as well lmp. We might as well do one for starters - and not losing the above-mentioned option. Pio could possibly fit it in, or someone who has sent one of the last posts there before the jump could do it.

So the question remains, do we write a collective post or do we refer to the things that have happened before with a mutual consent - only with individual viewpoints?

I'm slightly for the latter but will be ready to try the "community post" as well, if not for anything other than as a trial of that kind of posting...

[Folwren]

Thanks for making all clear, Nogrod.

I'd love to write a community post. But I'm flexible and even if I'm not happy, I won't complain.

Is the archery on horseback?

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Folwren

Is the archery on horseback?

If you wish. More of a challenge to Garmund and Cnebba!!! (I'm not sure Modtryth would be happy with that but if it's lord Eodwine's counsel she would agree... and Stigend would rejoice!!! )

[Folwren]

Would they still be working on the archery a month later?

Elempi, will more stones need to be gathered as the building progresses? I had thought of something that I could do during one of the stone gathering expeditions, but I see in your post that many stones have already been quarried and shaped. If that's all they'll need, that's fine, but if more will be brought in, I'd like to do something in it.

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Folwren

Would they still be working on the archery a month later?

Certainly... You don't learn that in a month... and Javan would learn more himself as he's required to teach and thence forced to think of the things he knows... and which he himself learns while teaching... and some passers-by (anyone interested to post on that?) might give them some advice (who could resist the chance of teaching youngsters with the arrows if they knew the trade?).

Elempi, will more stones need to be gathered as the building progresses? I had thought of something that I could do during one of the stone gathering expeditions, but I see in your post that many stones have already been quarried and shaped. If that's all they'll need, that's fine, but if more will be brought in, I'd like to do something in it.

Just my opinion. This will be a gargantuan enterprise so nothing's enough...

There's clearly no wood enough to build the Mead Hall so it needs to be made of stones as lord Eodwine foresaw... But just try to figure out the number of stones which it would take a host of men to heave up and carry and then for some (two persons basically - well Stigend and a few soldiers might learn it...) - to mould and get it right. And then think of a great hall... It's not a month or two but longer...

Just my opinion calling for realism...


EDIT: X'd with Foley... Let's see to it...

[littlemanpoet]

Originally Posted by Folwren

Would they still be working on the archery a month later?

Certainly.

Originally Posted by Nogrod

This will be a gargantuan enterprise so nothing's enough...

Quite.

Originally Posted by Foley

Elempi, will more stones need to be gathered as the building progresses? I had thought of something that I could do during one of the stone gathering expeditions, but I see in your post that many stones have already been quarried and shaped. If that's all they'll need, that's fine, but if more will be brought in, I'd like to do something in it.

Not having expected Nain the Dwarf to arrive in Scarburg, the story I told was that the stones needed had been gathered and shaped. But a Dwarf would know better and not be shy about saying so. So Formy, don't be shy. Then Foley can do her idea with Thornden.

Originally Posted by foley

I don't know how it works in real life with real kids. As time moved on, I imagine they would grow used to each other, but perhaps not friendly. I'm thinking that that's where they are at this point.

When you have three people, whether children or adults, and they aren't necessarily getting along, you will have something called "triangulation". Two of them join together as the "in" pair, leaving the 3rd person "out". And WHO is OUT can change. One possibility is that Cnebba will turn out to be better at archery than Garmund, and Javan and that better archer will form the new pair. Then it may turn out that Garmund is better at horseback archery than Cnebba (partly because of Snowstreak being more easily spooked now), and the IN pair will again switch. And then something else might happen to put Javan on the OUT again. All of this kind of triangulation will keep repeating itself until SOMETHING, as Foley suggested, draws the threesome together as a unit in which they become aware that each of the three has value for the unit of three. That doesn't have to happen right away for these three. I think it might be more interesting to explore the triangulation in its various possibilities before resolving them into a threeway friendship. But a question: what of Lys?

Foley, your thoughts on how to handle horses are most certainly appreciated as it makes this "pretend" rpg more realistic.

Okay, now to read these new posts. If anything I've said above is already not doable because of what I haven't read yet, no problem. But I'm not going to delete what I've already written.

EDIT: Okay, no reason to worry about deleting a thing.

Regarding Dan, Scyld, and Eodwine

The PM built post is not happening so far, presumably beause Eonwe is busy with RL. In any case, I want to cover what I'm thinking about how things will have played out.

With Dan keeping his promise to Oeric, and Scyld in the know (cahoots) about that, Dan brings Scyld aka Nydfara to Eodwine. Eodwine, it just so happens, has seen Nydfara/Scyld before. He had brought a young woman with him to the Eorling Mead Hall, posing under another name, and had turned out to be a spy. I'll have to check the Abduction story to determine whether Eodwine had seen him on the Scar with Linduial toward the end of that story. At any rate, Eodwine will have a sense that he's seen him before. If he only saw him at the EOH, he will have a negative association but not be able to place it: STRIKE ONE. Dan brings Nydfara to Eodwine as the spy who has been lurking and now been caught: STRIKE TWO. Dan says that Nydfara has rescued him from the mire: "BALL ONE".

ANOTHER EDIT: Scyld was not seen by Eodwine at the Scar with Linduial.

So using my batter at the plate analogy, the "count" is against Nydfara but as yet undecided.

Eodwine will ask Nydfara, "why did you keep yourself hidden and only come when Dan brought you?"

Firefoot, what would Nydfara's answer be?