Werewolf XLVIII: When Virtual Becomes Reality

[Mithalwen]

Originally Posted by Eomer of the Rohirrim

Sorry Mith, you’re damned if you do, damned if you don’t.

Story of my life in so many ways.... but Eomer I think (and with a only too acute sense of irony) that you may be taking this too personally. You may have to consider that the game isn't revolving around you.

I don't know why people are suprised about Kath being killed. She made few posts but she is a very good player, the wolves may have thought it worth getting her out of the way before she could get more active.

Also if she was the ranger save then the wolves, as Nilp points out, having been foiled may have wanted a certain kill. Eomer's kill list doesn't factor in our very talented ranger. I can't remember a game where a ranger got it right first time. And in this game there was even a possibility that Kath was the ranger.

I hope to be around a bit longer but real life factors are conspiring against me - see admin thread.

[Mithalwen]

Oh I see, yet another day when Mith rambles away to herself like the crazywoman she is and then no doubt you all emerge the second I am gone. Well I shall give it about half an hour and then shall ramble a bit more, vote and leave ...

[Durelin]

Alright, some conclusions from my ramblings:

Vaguely in order of suspicion (vaguely because I am incredibly indecisive):

Shasta
Mith
Sally
Eomer
Nogrod

Aganzir makes good points about Nilp I guess, but I'm just not feeling it.

I really like Shasta right now, with his arguing of principles and such, which is why I think he might well be a wolf.

Mith and Sally feel slippery. It seems like they're trying to be...nice.

Eomer bothers me. He's channeling phantom-ness.

It just seems so right for Nogrod to be a wolf right now.

Sally - Eonwe seems cheesy...he seems to me like he's trying too hard to be surprised at things, to be interested in things, to look like he's doing something...you know, bad acting.

[satansaloser2005]

Quick check-in post. Sorry, can't stay (only have about two minutes) but I'm letting you know that I WILL be back at the end of the Day to vote. And I mean the end. (Good thing the Downs clock is slow though.) See you all then.


P.S. Ah. Gotcha, Durelin. Thought that might have been what you meant, but wasn't sure. Okay, gotta rush now. G'bye.

[Mithalwen]

Me, try to be nice? Lol - my heart is usually firmly on my sleeve and I can't believe that I can be tramsmitting much other than grumpiness and a drop of sarcasm.

Can someone explain this principle of Noggie's. I am not sure I can see the moral highground of voting for Kit when it didn't matter. I am not sure what is the point of principles only invoked when they are irrelevant, it doesn't inspire a great deal of faith in the courage of his convictions.

If I give up trying to sort through the posts (and time is against me) I may well may well vote for him on the principle that I am getting heartily fed up with him acting as some kind of cyber sheep-dog, voting literally at at the last minute, expecting everyone else to vote before him, then wringing his hands in moral outrage when they fail to do what he wants. Especially as when he has done it in other games he has played he has been a wolf. Just seems like such a major back covering exercise as if he is terrified a vote may incriminate him in some way - manipulative without risking the exposure of taking a lead.

I will have another think because Form was right that personal irritation may be a dangerous guide... and now I have that fully out of my system .. I may be able to see clearer ... or not...

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

A few words before voting:

• Love the SAVE, Durelin.
  
  
• Made you look, implies sally's sig.
  
  
• Shasta has an avatar now!
  
  
• Speaking of Shasta, the Shasta/Eomer show feels a bit staged to me. Hmmm . . .
  
  
• Enedwaith, cuz:

  I'm not constructing a logical argument to demonstrate my innocence. All I'm saying is that if I was a wolf, I'd be gentler in my public dealings. I am not trying to convince you -- that would be futile -- but perhaps some other folk in the village remember me as a colder, more dismissive wolf, rather than the loud, fight-seeking chap I'm showing myself to be here today. It's not general; it's particular to me. Frankly, I don't care if anyone buys it; I'm not hiding my thoughts, and it's way less pressure to play as an innocent. (Eomer)

  Actually, the best I can remember of your wolvish behaviour is attacking spawn, calling her a liar, me getting vengeance, and a bloody Saucepan victory. So, sorry, you can't really tell us how you'd act as a Wolf.
  
  
• Judging from Nerwen's voting, I'd say Eönwë's innocent, too. Gah.

Augh, my brain is still dead and dry. I find no-one really suspicious, and I'm tempted just to vote for the least-suspicious-seeming person cos I feel I've been barking up the wrong trees . . .

All I can say is I don't buy assuming people innocent just because they thought Nerwen suspicious . . . you can say all you want about someone, but it all comes down to voting, whether you really want the person you suspect lynched or not. Boromir and Aganzir, as I've said before, did not follow through their suspicion by voting.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

That was ages ago, Nilp. In the last 42000 times I've been a wolf I've been far calmer.

What's with Nilp waking up so early to be around at deadline, though? I don't remember seeing that before. Could the stakes be too high for sleep, dear cousin?

I think Mith has a good point about Nogrod. I'm already wary of him so the pieces certainly fit. I'm thinking Nogrod, Nilp and Shasta, two of those as the original wolf.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

I play to win now, cuz, no longer merely to have fun. Although getting votes is still quite a rush . . .

Besides, I'm already awake trying to cudgel my mind into churning a thousand words in German for a paper on Enlightenment and the Philippines.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Besides, if you want high stakes, I could have done this during the previous (DW) game . . . might have won it, too, I fancy, had I been around that DAY.

Erenor my mother does make sense about Nogrod, although I don't remember playing with him to know what his normal playing style is. I may have played in a game where he was in, too, but . . . not that you're forgettable or anything, sir Noggie. I'm just forgetful, perhaps.

My radar is really off right now, rargh. Ah well, we still do have our Moderators . . . I do hope our Seer has a proper sense of revelation timing, though . . . she might go jump out after having revealed just one Hacker, only to realise in the end that the others are rather too cunning at blending in.

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Originally Posted by Kitanna

Shasta seems utterly against Eomer on his assurance of EW's guilt based upon what to me looks like the above theory. I know yesterday at least Rikae was following the same sort thing, calling EW "dead weight" at one point. So, why attack Eomer about it, Shasta?

Why Eomer and not Rikae? Because due to something someone else (I think it was actually you, Kitanna!) said, Rikae seems innocent to me based on her first-day Nerwen vote. Part of it, though, is that I've been suspicious of Eomer since Day 1 and this just adds fuel to the fire.

Originally Posted by Eonwe

To me, the person with the biggest change over last night was Shasta. Until today he was very quiet, or at least very laid back and even though he posted, he didn't really say much. Today, he seemed much more lively and engaging in conversation. But maybe this is just a matter of time restraints (like my non-activity today before now). We'll just have to see if it develops into something.

Yes... During the extended Night 3, I was forced to sell my car. Now that I'm stuck at home with no place to go and nothing to do, I may as well sit here at the computer and post for all I'm worth.

Originally Posted by Durelin

I really like Shasta right now, with his arguing of principles and such, which is why I think he might well be a wolf.

Dury! How could you!

Originally Posted by Mith

I may well may well vote for him on the principle that I am getting heartily fed up with him acting as some kind of cyber sheep-dog, voting literally at at the last minute, expecting everyone else to vote before him, then wringing his hands in moral outrage when they fail to do what he wants. Especially as when he has done it in other games he has played he has been a wolf. Just seems like such a major back covering exercise as if he is terrified a vote may incriminate him in some way - manipulative without risking the exposure of taking a lead.

And I do like this point of Mith's. I may just go back and take a good look at our dear wannabe-moderator.

Originally Posted by Nilp

Shasta has an avatar now!

Yay, someone noticed! You like it?

Edit: X'd with Eomer and Nilp. Boy, someone's suspicions sure have changed, haven't they?

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

Edit: X'd with Eomer and Nilp. Boy, someone's suspicions sure have changed, haven't they?

Is this me, you're talking about? Could it be that things changed after we found a wolf?

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Originally Posted by Eomer of the Rohirrim

Is this me, you're talking about? Could it be that things changed after we found a wolf?

I was talking about your out-of-the-blue suspicion of Nilp.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Not exactly out of the blue, Shasta, he's been suspecting me since DAY 2.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Originally Posted by Nilpaurion Felagund

Not exactly out of the blue, Shasta, he's been suspecting me since DAY 2.

Trying to get on my good side?

Fair comeback, Nogrod. Shasta and I are both tired so maybe we'll get the popcorn out and watch two others go at it.