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Old 06-10-2008, 08:02 PM   #1
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Oh yes, and Vana (again without the accent) would be "wake" in Finnish. A wake as if a sort of a line. I'm not sure if I can explain but the term "wake" makes little sense to me in this meaning (had to consult a dictionary). But hmmm.. it's like a trail or line left by something that has either been dragged or has flowed.
I think the important part here is that a "vana" is a trail of something in Finnish. So vana is nothing independent but something that exists following something else.

When a (small) boat goes through the water it leaves a "vana" behind it.

There is a Finninsh idiom that says something comes in "vanavedessä" of something eg. in "vana-waters" of something. There's the tie with the water.

Like a candidate in the elecetions who gets a landslide vote will draw the next candidate of her/his party in his/her "vanavedessä" up in the ranking and possibly through the election.

Or in athletics when for instance during the marathon one runner makes a dash for it at 30 kilometers and some others follow in his "vanavedessä" to break from the main group.

So it means following in a way even if it is a substantive - the thing that is to be seen from something that follows - like the trail in the water of a boat, or the trail (vana) of tears that can be seen on the cheeks even if the actual tears have dropped away.
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Old 06-20-2008, 05:33 PM   #2
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Yay Finnish! it's my native tongue and I always hold pride in the fact that the creation of Quenya was greatly influenced by it
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Old 06-20-2008, 05:56 PM   #3
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p.s. I've switched to a new account because I found a better user name than Olorin the White. It's a little more personal to me

as for names recommended thus far, I really liked Liona and Arien! Rhionna is also a great choice. It means enchantress and can be loosely translated to Luthien!
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Old 07-08-2008, 05:24 AM   #4
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Yay Finnish! it's my native tongue and I always hold pride in the fact that the creation of Quenya was greatly influenced by it
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Morm, I, too, think Rian is lovely. Keep trying.

As for Este and Vana, I have always been aware of their meanings in Finnish but I never thought about them that way, if you understand what I mean. Their names never made me laugh or anything (as a matter of fact, the only name that had me laughing was Kalavénë which, without the accents, means fishing boat) - Este never was an obstacle Vana a wake to me. Though if the child ever met a Finn who's not familiar with Tolkien's works, I don't know what they would think.

Two nice names that I can think of are Eonwe and Fionwe (or Finwe), but I'm not sure if they sound too feminine? What about Curufin and Daeron?

Haleth is a nice name which also works for both genders. Lalaith would make a good one, too - unless the parents don't want to name their child after a girl who died at the age of three.

Nice as it is, I guess Lobelia is not one of the most popular M-E names?

I must suggest also Maglor.
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Old 07-08-2008, 09:05 AM   #5
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Rian is a beautiful name, morm.

Amarië is another beautiful female name.
If I remember correctly, she was a Vanya and 'beloved' by Finrod, but decided to stay in Valinor.

It can possibly work without too many problems, since it sounds similar to 'anne-marie'.

Arien is beautiful and won't confuse non-Tolkien fans too much I guess.

I guess if your daughter has dark hair, Morwen would work. It's a pretty name, but probably not the best 'fate' wise.

That's all I can think of now, but others probably have better suggestions. Congratulations!

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Old 07-08-2008, 10:46 AM   #6
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Lalaith would make a good one, too - unless the parents don't want to name their child after a girl who died at the age of three.

Nice as it is, I guess Lobelia is not one of the most popular M-E names?
I rather like the name Lalaith, it's very pretty, even if you don't know the meaning...

But I think that I would name my kid Lobelia. It is a nice name, and I rather like Lobelia S.B. anyway!
But I don't think I'm going to be having kids anytime soon... or at least I hope not...
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