Seven Stars, Seven Stones and One White Tree... - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

zxcvbn · 03-13-2008, 03:25 AM

Can you quote the exact line, WCH?

Galin · 03-13-2008, 08:31 AM

I'm sure WCH can, but here it is anyway...

Quote:

'According to the 1966 Index the seven stars that were part of the emblem of Elendil and his house 'originally represented the single stars on the banners of each of seven ships (of 9) that bore a palantír'.

So the last part is Tolkien himself of course. As Mr. Hicklin noted this refers to an index meant for The Lord of the Rings.

mark12_30 · 03-13-2008, 03:31 PM

I always thought that Aragorn had one. "And the Star of Elendil was on his brow." Can't remember what page it was on. Pelennor fields maybe??

Gordis · 03-13-2008, 04:02 PM

That was Elendilmir, a jewel on a silver fillet, used like of a crown- a simbol of royalty in Arnor.

The one Aragorn had was made for Valandil of Arnor because the original one had been lost with his father Isildur. Later Aragorn found the first one in Saruman's hoard in Orthanc (UT).

mark12_30 · 03-13-2008, 05:00 PM

Wow, cool. I had forgotten/not absorbed that (langsyne since I read UT.) But what hinders those/that from being the seven stars?

Just wondering.

Gordis · 03-13-2008, 05:20 PM

Quote:

But what hinders those/that from being the seven stars?

The fact that it was single, I think

The star-shaped brooch of the Rangers, however, possibly represents Elendilmir, though I gave no proof for that.

mark12_30 · 03-13-2008, 06:30 PM

Okay, I should have said what hinders Aragorn's star from being ONE of the seven stars.

There does seem to be a theme-- Smith of Wooten Major wore a star on his brow at times. Not that that one came from Numenor....

03-13-2008, 03:31 PM	#3
mark12_30 Stormdancer of Doom Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Elvish singing is not a thing to miss, in June under the stars Posts: 4,349	I always thought that Aragorn had one. "And the Star of Elendil was on his brow." Can't remember what page it was on. Pelennor fields maybe?? __________________ ...down to the water to see the elves dance and sing upon the midsummer's eve.

03-13-2008, 05:00 PM	#5
mark12_30 Stormdancer of Doom Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Elvish singing is not a thing to miss, in June under the stars Posts: 4,349	Wow, cool. I had forgotten/not absorbed that (langsyne since I read UT.) But what hinders those/that from being the seven stars? Just wondering. __________________ ...down to the water to see the elves dance and sing upon the midsummer's eve.

03-13-2008, 06:30 PM	#7
mark12_30 Stormdancer of Doom Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Elvish singing is not a thing to miss, in June under the stars Posts: 4,349	Okay, I should have said what hinders Aragorn's star from being ONE of the seven stars. There does seem to be a theme-- Smith of Wooten Major wore a star on his brow at times. Not that that one came from Numenor.... __________________ ...down to the water to see the elves dance and sing upon the midsummer's eve.

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03-13-2008, 03:25 AM	#1
zxcvbn Wight Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: In front of my PC Posts: 164	Can you quote the exact line, WCH?

03-13-2008, 04:02 PM	#4
Gordis Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Minas Morgul Posts: 431	That was Elendilmir, a jewel on a silver fillet, used like of a crown- a simbol of royalty in Arnor. The one Aragorn had was made for Valandil of Arnor because the original one had been lost with his father Isildur. Later Aragorn found the first one in Saruman's hoard in Orthanc (UT).