Werewolf XLIV: In the House of Tom Bombadil

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Volo

Could you please explain what you meant? I didn't see any sense in either, but neither anything nasty.

Look at the first few posts... Lommy at least says a thing or two unlike Gwath; not anything extraordinary but reasonable compared to "First!" or "hush". And I didn't say either of them said anything nasty.

What makes me answer your question is the chance to ask you in turn why did you thought this so important thing as to bother asking in the first place? I mean I don't see any point in your question but could see a host of other questions to be raised.

[Volo]

So, computer stopped working, I burnt my fingernail and... nothing else actually.

Originally Posted by Nogrod

What makes me answer your question is the chance to ask you in turn why did you thought this so important thing as to bother asking in the first place? I mean I don't see any point in your question but could see a host of other questions to be raised.

You were around.
Do ask the other questions if you have them.

Originally Posted by Durelin

Okay, never played with Sally, but uh...is this *oh, loves, you know I'm not a wolf! I'd never lie to you!*...typical? So, Sally - if you were a wolf, would you come out and tell us and make sure you got lynched?

My opinion on Sally is that she's a totally crazy player and jokes around more than anybody else. Talking the way she does now isn't something she'd do only as a Wolf. Of course, it might be a way to cover up for not saying anything else and to look "normal".
You know, she's a bit like Fea actually. Thankfully not as radical, but they are similar in some ways.


I feel so lazy, clueless and hungry at the moment that I'll go and feed myself. After that I might want to try planning my school essay. Though I doubt I'll start actually doing homework, which is good news on the WW front.

[Gwathagor]

I found a later time slot in which to vote, which is good (yay!). Vote: ++Boromir88, because of his anti-rational methodology. Even if he isn't a wolf, a player who doesn't want to reason is bad news.

[A Little Green]

A quick sidenote,
I feel uneasy about Gwath's vote. It looks somewhat like the start of a bandwaggon to me.

Originally Posted by Gwath

Even if he isn't a wolf, a player who doesn't want to reason is bad news.

A player who doesn't want to reason? What do you mean by that, Gwath?

Something's wrong in his post. Just... plain wrong.


EDIT: 90th post!!

[THE Ka]

Originally Posted by Mac the one and true

Ka, in #46, you gave a quote which isn't mine but McCaber's. Of course, you could refer to Cabbie as 'Mac', but that's gonna cause some confusion.

So sorry about that!
I completely missed it, i'm sorry, after about 10:30 my brain goes off and forgets the details about anything.

Originally Posted by Neurotic Nerwen

Is apparently trying to win a prize for saying the least in the most words. A possible "safe" wolf-tactic?

Originally Posted by Moi en #48

Yes, I'm admitting that I have no idea about any of you yet.

Oooh! Oooh! Did I win anything?

Originally Posted by Volo

Could you please explain what you meant? I didn't see any sense in either, but neither anything nasty.

I think it was just a bit of in-character joke, at the joking arguement that took place in the first few posts.
... And just forget what I said, looks like Nogrod cleared that up.

Originally Posted by Volo

While reading through the thread I got the feeling that somebody might be trying to frame Lommy. I mean she was quite in the middle of everything a while ago and slowly some people started calling her innocent. Something feels fake there.

People are always trying to frame Lommy though. Either out of turning suspicion elsewhere than themselves, or out of wary because Lommy is a tricky wolf at times and they certainly do not want to be caught off guard, no offense Lommy.

As for Sally, I am glad there is at least someone who enjoys being crazy around here, despite their role. I had the chance of playing with her before when she was a wolf, I believe, but it is going to be difficult to tell whether she's telling the truth or not concerning her role this time.
Sorry Sally, I love your style and nature, but I still have as much suspicion and no idea about you as I do about some others.

Yay! Mith came.

Okay, I have to leave now, but I should be back in time to re-read (if it'll actually help me at 'tall), and vote before deadline.

[Boromir88]

On the other hand...Boro, along with Lommy, is among those pulling the preemptive "this is how I always am, it doesn't mean I'm a wolf", or "this is how I am as a wolf, and I'm not that now, so I'm not a wolf" stuff. Not as bad as Sally's "I'd tell you if I was a wolf cause I can't lie!", but it still annoys me.~Durelin

Well, I would say I'm sorry for causing that annoyance, but I would be lying. It's hard when you're a wolf to hold back that blood-thirsty reaction of "There are a couple people mumbling about my wolfishness...it's only Day 1...this isn't good, how do I turn suspicion away from me?" Trust me, I know, I've been down that road before.

My top suspect of those who have actually taken part in the discussion so far is Menel. He has tried to follow two suspcions nicely just when they have been on the air (first going with pushing Lommy then on Mac).~Nogrod

Take this as a defense for Menel, if you want to, in many ways it is, but I don't find his behavior all that suspicious at all this day. Menel, as an innocent, typically does feed well off of others (though not literally "feed" but you know what I mean). He's good at following up on other people's suspicions, which naturally makes him look like a wolf, but that's rather Menel-like.

Our long history where I've caught on to Menel being a wolf (very early in the game) was because his comments seemed to be forcing something, forcing suspicions towards certain people, instead of "going with the flow." It's very possible that he's changed up, but I don't find him wolfish in the least bit today.

Sally's vote for me looks like an innocent one and appears genuine. This is our first village together, and I understand my Day 1 style usually does get me into trouble early.

Volo's follow up suspicion of me seems like it's all too convenient and is an attempt to get more support against me. What do I mean?

While reading through the thread I got the feeling that somebody might be trying to frame Lommy. I mean she was quite in the middle of everything a while ago and slowly some people started calling her innocent. Something feels fake there.
The best "proof" to Lommy's innocence is exactly this, to me.

And with that idea I stumbled upon Boro's post #74. It fits well to what I thought of and I can't really say what it is but Boro is... overdoing it? Not exactly...

It sounds like...

"This suspicion towards Lommy early, than baking away looks fake, so it looks like Lommy is innocent. Oh and looky here...Boro's post fits exactly with what I was thinking...how about that coincidence?"

I'm blunt Volo, and I must say it is that which seems fake not the "stuff" going on with Lommy.

Edit: x-ed with several people

[Boromir88]

A player who doesn't want to reason? What do you mean by that, Gwath?

Something's wrong in his post. Just... plain wrong.~Greenie

That is quite interesting and Gwath's last post (with the vote for me) reminds me of Menel's behaviour when I spotted him as a wolf early in these villages.

What I mean is Menel had the attitude of "I don't think anyone looks all that suspicious, but we can get away with lynching innocents it's ok, if they're just ordinary." Which I find to suggest "it's early, it's ok to lynch a couple innocents" to be just plain out evil behavior. In my opinion, you vote for who you think to be the most wolvish, even if it's something small, weak, and insignificant you go with it. That is why I think Sally's vote looks like the vote of an innocent, Gwath's on the other hand just looks evil..."Even if he's not a wolf...it's alright to get this one wrong Boro isn't going to do this village any good with his reasoning."

And especially in this village, where we have no gifted, I am definitely against this vote by Gwath. If you think I'm a wolf so be it, you're doing your duty, but don't vote for me if you think I'm probably innocent but it would be ok to get it wrong, because it's only day 1. That was Menel's attitude when I found out he was a wolf...and this is very troubling.

So, I still have an hour or so, I will see what happens, but probably will vote for Gwath or Volo.

[Volo]

Boromir, I got quite worried for you getting a second vote, as the stuff I said are barely speculations. But your answer to me looks more evil than not, you didn't explain yourself or defend yourself but simply attacked back like trying to frighten me away. I'm uncertain after your latest post about Gwath. Again you're turning the attention to somebody who attacked you first, but then again you have a point, a brave point. If Gwath is lynched Innocent you will probably be targeted and a Wolf doesn't want that.

EDIT: Xd with the Ka

[Macalaure]

I'm here again and now finally free to really read what happened since I went to sleep yesterday. Skimming through the thread from work earlier, I didn't see anything that stuck out to me. Hopefully I'll find something now.

[Thinlómien]

I have to agree with Boro about Volo. He jsut strikes me as ungenuine and his reasoning is even odder (no offense, Volo ) than usual. In short, he is suspicious. He's making a fuss of odd things and looks like a wolf who just can't come up with proper suspicions. He just simply doesn't sit right with me.

I also agree with Boro and Greenie on what they said about Gwathagor. His vote looks quite troubling, but on the other hand, Gwath could be the easy newbie lynch victim. *sigh*

Now, I'll follow the list trend:

Innocentish
Nerwen
Boro
Sally

Slightly innocentish
THE Ka
Menel

Neutral
Mith
Greenie
Durelin
Nogrod
Rikae

Suspicious-ish
Volo
McCaber
Gwath
Mac

I find Rikae less suspicious than I did, because I give credit to her response to me and because she has felt overall more reasonable lately, but I'm still not ready to be less wary of her.

THE Ka and Menel seem innocentish because albeit they're suspicious, they both act so much like their innocent selves.

edit: xed with Rikae, Boro, Nogrod & Nogrod

[Thinlómien]

Rikae, it seems you left Greenie out as well.

And, by the way, Nogrod is making more sense post by post so I should consider him innocent but some weird brake in my head restrains me from doing so. *shrugs*

[Volo]

It's so funny, Boro. You talk much more about your preveous experiences, when you lynched Menel-Wolf and when you became a Fenris-Penguin. Menel and Lommy your partners to wake up such memories?

To say the truth I can't decide on Gwath. Otherwise he looks Innocent to me but that vote is a bit easy. Please, anybody, give your opinions on this. Somebody who knows such situations better than me. Although I have been Fenrisifised, but for different reasons.

EDIT: Xd with Mac.

[McCaber]

Please don't forget I exist. I'll even try to be loud on the next Days to make up for this. I'm in the middle of prepping for class, but I should still have time to vote.

Boro seems to know what he's doing, and he raises good points. I would prefer it was not him lynched today.

Gwath looks bad to me, but I'm still not sure. I'll get some thoughts soon and vote quickly.

[Mithalwen]

Haste people we have only a few minutes..

[Rikae]

Well, may as well stick with my top suspect.

++Gwath

EDIT: X'd with GreenMithVolo

[Mithalwen]

I don't want Boro lynched. Mac seems a bit off but ..

++Gwathagor

[McCaber]

I hate to this, but here it is.

++Gwathagor

I'm still not completely sure, but several things he did just put me off.

And now here I am joining a bandwagon...

[Nogrod]

If there is a chance then...

++ McCaber

Five votes left...