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Ghost Prince of Cardolan
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Back on the Helcaraxe
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The Children of Hurin has long reminded me of a strange cross between Oedipus and Elric of Melnibone (possible only in the hindsight of when UT was first published, since Elric obviously was written after Tolkien wrote his first drafts of the Hurin tale, and I doubt very much that either author was any influence on the other). At lot of Tolkien's tales are like a lot of classic mythology in general -- not too many light and happy tales out there, when you stop to think about it (awe-inspiring, perhaps, like the Ainulindale, but not light-hearted). Which is appropriate, since myths, I think, often come about to explain and give meaning to what seem like the eternal burdens and difficulties and mysteries of life.
I imagine that given the "weight" of Tolkien's tales, it explains why, when I first read LotR as a child, I liked the hobbits, as I became an adult, I was fascinated by Aragorn, and now that I'm "over the hill," I'm intrigued by the Ainur. First the (comparatively) child-like, then the heroic, and then the angelic. Sheesh, I feel like I'm sticking one foot in the grave, here... Not ready for that by a long shot.
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Flame Imperishable
Join Date: Dec 2007
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Sorry But as you say, most legends are powerful, full of evil, suffering, but also heroics and brave deeds. They're about people confronting the evil, the bad thigs that happen to them and in life. I sound a bit too happy here I think, like someone commentinng on the moral of a story
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Tuor, the anti-Turin. Everything Turin does, Tuor does as well, only differently.
He deserves his own thread.
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Ghost Prince of Cardolan
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: midway upon... in a forest dark
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yes, yes, mithalwen, Aldarion and Erendis was such a good sketch, wasn't it? The subtitle was even catchy. The Shadow of the Shadow. Funny how something as trifle as the divorce of the Heir and his wife should help bring the shadow of the Shadow.
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Emperor of the South Pole
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: The Western Shore of Lake Evendim
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Battles for the Fords of Isen, Cirion and Eorl, & Disaster in the Gladden Fields all helped flesh out parts of the Lord of the Rings story. But the most touching was Aldarion and Erendis where it showed that all marital unions in Middle Earth are not the fairy tale sorts. This tale had me thinking of other marriages mentioned where no depth was ever discussed ... Arvedui & Firiel, Arathorn & Gaelrian, Faramir & Eowyn, and even Aragorn & Arwen. I mean, imagine the "discussion" when Aragorn tells Arwen he has decided to lay down his life. We get a glimpse of it, but still...
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Ghost Prince of Cardolan
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There are any number of the tales that are interesting and
bear rereading. Tuor's is quite enlightening but also frustrating...with the tale ending just as he enters Gondolin. His journey there has so many neat bits: his "chance" meeting with the two elves, his meeting with (Ulmo?), and his almost encounter with Turin. A continuation of the tale with his encounters with Maeglin and "Escape from Gondolin!" would have been fascinating. But then again there's the great elucidating on the Rohirrim organization and the Battles of the Fords of Isen. And the runup to TH "An Unexpected Party" with Gandalf's difficulty with Thorin. Also one other bit, it strikes me that the way JRRT presents both sides plusses and minuses in the Erendis/Aldarion disfunctional relationship is not unlike the various arguments for elves, men, dwarves (and a hobbit) to the treasure of Erebor after the slaying of Smaug.
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Shade of Carn Dūm
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Minas Morgul
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I agree with Snowdog, Eldarion and Erendis is an awesome tale. As to character development, it is probably Tolkien's best. Reading other stories it would seem that Men in Tolkien World were as "holy" as Elves in "domestic matters". Well now we know they were not. *feels relieved*
![]() I especially like Erendis's words: Quote:
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