Werewolf XLII: The meaning of life forever

[Valier]

Your comment Legate above is what I was talking about about using yesterday as a way to "manipulate" the later voting. The coin always has two sides. One you can say you would never do something because it would not benefit you as a wolf, and on the other side as a wolf you could say you would never do it, then do it, just to confuse others. Does this make sense?

Now the question is do I vote for the more "easier" candidate Menel, as there is not much to go on and he offers no good suspicions or discussions. Or do I go with the more innocent looking Legate, who seems to offer good discussions and has fair reasoning behind his suspicions. But sometimes what seems good and true on the surface, can indeed be furry beneath.

Still hoping to hear more from both of you....

[Meneltarmacil]

OK, basically, Legate, the reason your suspicion of Nogrod doesn't seem to make sense is that you seemed to agree with a lot of Nogrod's ideas, yet constantly felt you had to mention that he was suspicious. I couldn't find an explanation of why he was suspicious in your posts, except for a mention of him trying to hide behind a helpful idea.

What, specifically, did Nogrod do to make you suspect him?

Alas, my hunting skills are unlikely to help a lot here, given that my favored enemy is moose.

[Gil-Galad]

i am totally confused in this game right now... it is going to take me awhile to get my bearing so i will not be voting today...

(i got to re-read the rules because like i said, i am totally confused... great way to start a game...)

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by Valier

Your comment Legate above is what I was talking about about using yesterday as a way to "manipulate" the later voting. The coin always has two sides. One you can say you would never do something because it would not benefit you as a wolf, and on the other side as a wolf you could say you would never do it, then do it, just to confuse others. Does this make sense?

Oh yes, I understand.

What I was saying concerning the suspicions created yesterDay is that they won't come into effect until Day 1 when all the folks are together again. And that's a long time. For innocent people, yesterDay was the moment when they could post their honest suspicions, without the fear that if they take a bad step, they immediately seal the person's fate. For a Wolf, intentionally constructing suspicion against someone did not bring immediate results and it would only make people focus on him for fabricating a case. And what worse, he could have fabricated a case against a fellow wolf. Yes, everything is possible, but it would take a very bold wolf to risk that much.

Menel, good to see you here. Well, I said it at the beginning - I just had the feeling that there is something bad about Nogrod. I could have picked a person I think suspicious the most, and I chose Nogrod, because he was posting a lot with slightly over-cheerful tone at times (I believe I mentioned this aspect in some post of mine), and while I agreed with his idea of making people vote, he had this stance even before the game started (so he could not have changed his opinion even if he wanted to), and so he could have turned it to his advantage as a wolf. The overall behavior of his, just the way he behaved, made me think that he may rather be pretending to be helpful than really trying to be helpful. So that was the basis of my suspicion against him.

[Valier]

I see what you are saying Legate. That makes sense.

Gil-Galad, reread the rules. there is only 3 warriors who post today.

[Valier]

Originally Posted by Menel

Alas, my hunting skills are unlikely to help a lot here, given that my favored enemy is moose.

I am but a Ranger. But I'm afraid Moose hunter no matter what your wordly powers, you must find another way to help out in this battle.

[Valier]

Menel you are awfully quiet...even more than usual? Your last post to me sounds a bit like you've given up already.

[Valier]

hour and a bit left..... are you both going to leave it till the last?

I'm still thinking this through myself. but in the end, I'm afraid my gut may have to do the job for me if I don't hear more.

[Meneltarmacil]

I'm still here; that last comment was just an in-character thing.

Anyhow, I suppose it's possible that Legate was legitimately suspicious of Nogrod, given that Nogrod would have had to set his idea in motion regardless of what he was.

As for what I might want from you, Valier, I couldn't find much in your posts that would shed any light on what your role might be, just mild suspicions here and there without much else. You could either be a villager in the dark about things, or a wolf pretending to be a villager, but there's nothing to suggest either one. The playing style here prevents the usual bandwagoning, vote-influencing, and such, and so I don't have any patterns from you to analyze yet. In short, I'm not sure there's much I can do.

So do we have a loud, confusing, influential wolf trying to stay close to Nogrod's ideas while keeping a discrete distance from the man himself, or is the wolf just trying to pass itself off as an in-the-dark villager and hope nobody notices? I'll review the posts some more and get back to you on that.

[Valier]

Originally Posted by Menel

So do we have a loud, confusing, influential wolf trying to stay close to Nogrod's ideas while keeping a discrete distance from the man himself, or is the wolf just trying to pass itself off as an in-the-dark villager and hope nobody notices?

Now you know exactly how I feel about you two.

[Aganzir]

Honestly, I don't understand why Legate was lynched. To me, he was the most innocent-looking of them.
Menel said Valier hadn't posted enough for him to form an opinion about her and Legate was strange, and thus he was inclined to suspect him.

Originally Posted by Menel

-Legate was behaving rather strangely earlier. He throws his support behind Nogrod's voting idea, with good arguments to match... and then attacks Nogrod for trying to be too helpful, without posting a lot of reasoning for his choice beyond that. This doesn't look good.

I fail to see what's strange with that. You can agree with someone but think he looks suspicious anyway.
I don't like the way Menel was after Legate all day. And I don't like either how Valier ended up voting him. The whole lynching was too easy. I believe the wolf is still alive.

I think McCaber was the most suspicious there yesterday. I considered Roa innocent as well, but he was really siding with her, and it's quite obvious that Naria would have died had he not failed to vote (which, I hope, he'll explain on Day 1).

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I know these aren't of much use at the moment, but I'd like to hear your thoughts anyway. Or at least your thoughts about something, especially Shasta's.
I think I can tell that if I had to vote now, I'd vote Shasta - because Ka has been so much more constructive. (Why is it that I've recently taken into a habit of threatening him with a vote? ) But I'd hate to actually vote him with that reason, so please, Shasta, talk.