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Old 01-06-2008, 01:34 PM   #1
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I would like to say one technical thing first, these "outside" or "bonus" or rather "forward" threads, or how could I call them, are dangerous in the way that it is hard to spot that they have been posted to. Oh how happy I am that I noticed this. I certainly would like to join. It is a great way to keep one reading also, I started reading LotR in the past several years, yet I always stopped at some times and then I just randomly picked something to read or continued in the same course very slowly. I find the chapter-by-chapter idea actually absolutely wonderful, also that it keeps the focus of people together. And, mainly, I think this thing contributes to the collective feeling of the Downers as a group. Great you decided to revive this, Esty!

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If you join me in posting, don't worry whether things were already said way back several years ago - this is a fresh start, growing on the "leaf mould" of the previous discussion. A number of you weren't around back then - this is your chance to write what you think and feel when you reread LotR!
Well for myself I don't even want much to read what was posted before (aside from the introductions, of course), because it would probably only frustrate me to think of something and realise it was posted several years ago, so even a person cannot seriously reply to it because also about fifty people replied on that before, I know, I know - I would really like to start from scratch. It would be even nicer to start completely new threads for that, however it is of course clear that that's not affordable, as it would create only confusion and make the thoughts divided and unable to connect for potentional reader. You know, unless you decided to form some sort of "overall and always repeating BD schedule" that will go over and over again, so that even the new members could join this in any time and not depend on the luck that someone revives the old threads... when one reading would end, the new will immediately start, and it could go in circles like, for example, Reading 2008, Reading 2009 or similar (well, if it took only that long, of course... but you know what I mean). Like, you know, I thought about the liturgical years some churches have, or the Jews have a system of reading Torah that divides the text for them into daily readings, so they read all the books once a year (or in three years) and then they may start anew. I am not much of a fan of the scheduled and ordered things (and rules, mainly), but like I said, if the reading was made scheduled in this way (weekly, let's say, as was the original Chapter-by-chapter) and it was ordered to be repeated once the last reading finishes, well, that would grant the option for all, even the new members, to participate in it...

I don't know why I actually wrote it here, because the more now I think of it, it seems rather silly to me, but whatever, it's an idea and that's always good to post rather than be silent.
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Old 01-06-2008, 01:40 PM   #2
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That's an interesting idea, Legate - maybe we'll start a tradition of rereading LotR every January or something like that! Of course, we'll have to go through at a somewhat faster pace than the original one to make it by the end of the year...
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Old 01-06-2008, 01:58 PM   #3
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That's an interesting idea, Legate - maybe we'll start a tradition of rereading LotR every January or something like that! Of course, we'll have to go through at a somewhat faster pace than the original one to make it by the end of the year...
But surely it doesn't have to be annual? We could as well start a new round every two years or something like that... But as far as I'm concerned, I'm alright with any pace that isn't monstrously quick. And I must add I'm not sure how actively I will partcipate after being done with FotR - I'm currently reading LotR in French and as it's not the easiest language to read in for me, I might need a pause and read some other books before returning to it.
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Old 01-06-2008, 02:04 PM   #4
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It could be good to do it again, schedule (and the kraken) allowing of course! Who knows what new insights I've got over the past couple of years? What about all these spanky new companions and guides and whatnot? What about reading in the light of Children of Hurin?

Plus we have lots of new members and I'd love to see what they've got to say, and older members didn't always join in back then - maybe they're a whole lot less daunted now being veterans? I don't think I was around in the early days of the last read through either, and I certainly wasn't very confident when I did first join in...

But two points:

1. I'd advise against a fast pace on it. Even if you want to read and post quickly Esty, I don't think everyone will be able to do the same, and if one of your aims is to talk to people instead of to the computer (I know what you mean, just posting on a cold, dead thread can be a bit like muttering away to yourself like a madwoman) then I'd advise on holding off for a more leisured schedule than once a day - even if it does take ages to get through it again. It might just be me, but keeping a tight ship on the group read through is a good idea for keeping discussion fresh?

2. Yes, use the old threads. They're full of stuff (I know, I posted too many overly lengthy posts...it was like homework!) and so it's nice to have it 'all in one place'. But I reckon it would also be good for people NOT to read through the threads until they've got their thoughts down - not only are they really daunting but who cares if you say something someone else has already said! Just say it anyway. I wouldn't be doing essays again anyway...

Oh, and a third point. 'Cause...

3. Let people know about it and often.
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Old 01-06-2008, 02:25 PM   #5
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Thanks for sharing your thoughts, Lal - since this was a spontaneous idea of mine, I'm certainly open to suggestions! Yes, I think I will not be able to keep up a daily pace - I could read a chapter a day easily, but posting takes time, as does reading what others (hopefully!) post. It's more likely to be approximately two chapters a week - that would get us through in less than a year.

As to when a next read-through would start, Lommy, well, this one begins 3 1/2 years after the first one did and was totally unplanned, so let's not worry about future discussions yet.

The third point is a very good idea - I'll post new threads about it on several forums to enlist interest.

I'd like to encourage members to post more about their personal thoughts and feelings than mere information - that will keep things fresh, and your own opinion always has validity.
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Old 01-06-2008, 02:47 PM   #6
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That sounds sensible - it wouldn't be as good if everyone ends up taking to themselves, which is what happened 'back in the day' whenever anyone posted on one of the threads months after it had been opened. I always found that quite sad really, as discussion had drawn to a close and then someone would say something interesting and it wouldn't get anywhere

davem just said "Be pretentious and ask if we should use the first edition text or not"...

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I just started reading the LotR outloud to my two younger siblings. I may as well join the conversations on the chapters. I'll be slow in reading...the chapters are long, and reading out loud can get difficult after thirty minutes. But, I'll still join in when I can.

As to Davem - I don't think I have a first edition, and I am reading out my copy, which, I believe, is a third edition...? So, tough - I'm not reading from a first edition.
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I read fast... if I wasn't occupied with other things I would have been done with LotR and TH in less than five days...it took me ten hours of non-stop hobbit and about (well I was just guessing) twelve hours for each of the volumes of LotR!


So start and go, go, go! I can keep up with a chapter a day... but I don't know if many other people could... maybe a chapter every two or three days? Or when the discussion for that particular chapter is dying down?

.... I don't know because I wasn't here in "The Good Ol' Days" so I obviously didn't participate in the original!
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