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Old 12-31-2007, 01:00 PM   #1
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Calm down, Mormegil. The game won't be over if we make a mistake today. If we make a mistake we have ample time to sort it out, and we will gain much truth from it. If we get the decision right first time, then even better.

Overtly pushing my innocence? I hardly think so. I'm just appealing for a bit of composure. It's not armageddon yet.
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Old 12-31-2007, 01:05 PM   #2
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Well the thing that seems to make most sense to me is this:

++MAC

He isn't Gifted so although we lose an excellent player we don't lose Seer or Ranger. His death helps us understand the role of Farael, and what I don't want under any circumstances is to lose a possible Seer, which Farael is.

Now, half the world is coming to mine tonight so I doubt I'll be able to get back on. So, happy new year!
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Old 12-31-2007, 01:54 PM   #3
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--Rikae

I guess we'll get to you tomorrow.

Morm if you trust me than you should trust me when I say Farael is the seer and you're making a mistake.

You warned me yesterday:
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As it stands I think you are a crazy innocent on a mission that will prove catastrophic if you continue to persue it because, like I said you are innocent, I believe, too so if you kill me it will increase the suspicion around you and only lead to your ultimate demise.
And now I'm going to give you that same warning. Instead of thinking what story is the only one that fits together and makes sense (that is I'm the ranger who successfully defended Farael yesterday, because the wolves thought they were going to kill the seer), you're thinking Farael is trying to drag out the gifteds.

What do you mean Farael had no motive to reveal at this time? He's got two wolves right for us to lynch, and as he rightly figured out he was attacked yesterday, the oppurtune time to reveal was now...today. I don't see anyone else saying Farael isn't the seer, do you?

Weren't you the one the last two days criticising me for not considering a Mac-Nogrod wolf-on-wolf plan? And now that we have Farael saying Mac is a wolf you suddenly are backing away?

I'm sorry Farael, maybe I shouldn't have done my job, maybe it would have been better to let you get killed.

With that said, I'm done focusing on Mac and Rikae. It's clear this is their wolfish plot to get us sidetracked. The cursed has been changed, there's still work to be done, so I'm going to do my job and try to figure out who it was.
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Old 12-31-2007, 02:13 PM   #4
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Morm if you trust me than you should trust me when I say Farael is the seer and you're making a mistake.
You seem to know something I don't and I do trust you more than any of the other three.

BAH! I can't stand this.

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Old 12-31-2007, 02:24 PM   #5
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Eh, morm? Even if Boro was the ranger, he wouldn't *know* Farael was the seer. He wouldn't even know if Farael was attacked or not. You also are not the only one who doubted Farael's claim - I hope your strange behavior is remembered toMorrow.
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Old 12-31-2007, 02:36 PM   #6
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I swear I am laughing at you all... I can't help it! Look at you, going around in circles trying to find "la quinta pata al gato" (that's a saying in Spanish that means a fifth paw to a cat... trying to find something that simply does not exist).

Look, it's very simple.

I suspected Boromir had protected me last night but I did not know it for certain. Since I know he's the ranger, I was on the look-out for any hints that I had been the one protected last night. If Boro chose to reveal, he could do it on his own terms... and I saw no reason to talk much about SPM as it was fairly certain the cursed had been turned. For all I know, he's a wolf too.

Now hey, talk about what you want... hey, for all I care lynch me... you do realize that since Boro said he protected me last night I'm done for this night right?

But if you have an iota of sense left, think about this.

I am the Seer. I made a lot of noise early in the day to get Mac and Rikae to make a mistake. And they sure did! Rikae came out as a "ranger" and yet her claim makes absolutely no sense... there was no need for her to reveal her role so early if she truly was the ranger, as she had not been under much suspicion what so ever.

So are you going to tell me that Rikae is likely the Ranger? who panicked and spoke up when she shouldn't have? She's a far smarter player than that.

As for my playing last day, does ANYONE have ANY doubts I dreamt of Macalaure that night? I was gambling that Boromir would pick up on it and protect me, because I knew that Macalaure would. It was a gamble, but he had positioned himself so wisely beyond suspicion that I felt even if I only managed to reveal him a wolf, it was good enough an effort for this village.

So you choose, I'm dead either way... lynch me now and give the wolves a chance to kill someone they WANT to kill this night? prolly Boro... or lynch one of the wolves now, watch me die tonight as I can't be protected and have some control yourselves over what happens in the next couple days?

Also, you have to give me some credit for making people talk... my biggest fear was that the wolves would decide to cut their losses and accept bandwagons in consecutive days without a fight, which would leave no evidence to find the third wolf... look at it now! There's at least some talk that has been going on and questions will be raised tomorrow.

Now I have to vote and I don't know if I'll be back before the deadline

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Old 12-31-2007, 02:39 PM   #7
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Eh, morm? Even if Boro was the ranger, he wouldn't *know* Farael was the seer. He wouldn't even know if Farael was attacked or not. You also are not the only one who doubted Farael's claim - I hope your strange behavior is remembered toMorrow.
But he would know you are not the ranger, and since you claimed to be it that can only make you a wolf An ordo wuld have raised bloody self-righteous heck since she was an ordo... she wouldn't claim to be the Ranger for no good reason

Come on, you panicked and lost it... it happens.
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Old 12-31-2007, 03:45 PM   #8
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I find it easy to want to believe Farael in his claim as the seer, as doing such is a very risky and bold move. If a wolf and false claiming, then we undoubtedly know who to lynch toMorrow.

It is quite hard to really look at the tail end of the votes yesterDay, as they're all mingled together in times.

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Ranger- Each night the Ranger must select someone to protect from the Werewolves and pm the name to me. If he picks the same person that the Werewolves pick for their kill, that person survives the night. If he protects the Cursed, the Cursed cannot be turned that night. The Ranger cannot protect himself, and he cannot protect the same person two nights in a row.
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Though I am deeply confused because I did protect Mac on Night 3, hence my clue left in my first post. Anyway, yesterday I protected Farael and Night 2 I protected Farael.
Assuming Boro is telling the truth, and the thought that the Cursed Villager turning occured Night 3; then it is quite impossible for the Cursed Villager to be Mac. However it was easy to think that Mac had been going after a future ally, in terms of Nogrod; now it just confirms that we have very bold wolves in this Village.

Like many othes, I find my mind is going about in circular knots.. oh yay.

I'm not liking the seemingly increase in aggressiveness from both Farael and Boro; it could be that they are getting frustrated that people aren't believing them on their word.. but I don't know.

++Mac

At this point, I think it is the best choice to make. We need to lynch one of Farael, Boro, Rikae, and Mac so as to figure out truth from lies. I don't like sacrificing someone just to figure it out, but it must be done. With the other three being possible gifteds, it makes Mac an easier choice.
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Old 12-31-2007, 02:45 PM   #9
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Ok so what we have is the knowns...

Farael
Rikae
Mac
Me


By knowns, I mean whom is lying and whom isn't will be shown in good time. For the time being I don't think there is a cobbler in this village. I think it was just some story cooked up to try to cast doubt...but I can't be for certain. Anyway, by the end of today, which two are wolves will be known.

So that leaves...

Aganzir
Eomer
Isabell
Kath
Legate
Morm
Sauce
The Might


One of 'em being the last wolf. I said Val's last choice to kill was morm, morm didn't die, therefor at that time he was innocent. However, on that night the cursed was change, so like Farael of Sauce, I can't be for certain whether he was changed. However, based on his posts he looks like an innocent morm, and I'll 'bet the farm' that he is.

Sauce's objective view to this...although it be quite nerve-racking, makes him look innocent. With the wolves ability to PM however, I wouldn't put it past the wolves to be behind the scened discussing how they are going to handle the situation that has come up today. Though, for the time being, Sauce looks innocent.

I wonder though if Agan is right, in that Rikae was the cursed, and one of those on the list have been a wolf all this time...gah this is so frustrating to try to figure out. I have no clue about The Might or Isabell. No one else really looks all bad.

I guess the worst would be Agan...as it appears this particular group of wolves likes to stay close together and throw accusations all around eachother. On the other hand, Agan just comes off as innocent like Sauce and morm.

Or maybe, Legate, who's behavior today just seems off...it's not what I expect from Legate. He's playing off a confused, "I need to sleep on this." And while the ordinary innocents would be confused by this whole situation, I've noticed Sauce, morm, and Kath, have all been discussing it...and admittingly are talking themselves in circles. Nevertheless, they like I would expect from dutiful innocents, are going off what they know and trying to figure it out. Legate avoided the subject and has been subtetly defending the two claiming it would be way too bold for wolves to sacrifice half their team. (To that I will say you must have missed the village where Nogrod sacrificed both his wolf partners and tried to make it through on his own). Too bold? I believed so a couple days ago, but now...? I don't think so.
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Old 12-31-2007, 02:46 PM   #10
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Eh, morm? Even if Boro was the ranger, he wouldn't *know* Farael was the seer.
Phantom didn't call this game "with a twist" for no reason whatsoever.
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Old 12-31-2007, 02:53 PM   #11
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Ok...here's my first triple post in history...

++Mac

I won't be back for the rest of the day...I hope all innocents will not let themselves get dooped by Rikae and Mac.

Rikae is a crafty wolf, who before I have seen escape almost certain lynching to get an innocent Lommy lynched and survive another day. She knew she was going to be as good as dead soon, but managed to survive as long as she could...don't let her do the same thing.

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And Legate just had to ruin my triple post
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Old 12-31-2007, 02:55 PM   #12
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It appears you two don't know how to quit when you're ahead - you might just talk Farael's neck right into a noose.
Go ahead, keep "explaining" yourselves.

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Old 12-31-2007, 02:51 PM   #13
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Okay, the votes of toDay this far:

Rikae -> Farael (Farael 1)
Macalaure -> Farael (Farael 2)
Boromir88 -> Rikae (Farael 2; Rikae 1)
Aganzir -> Mac (Farael 2; Mac 1; Rikae 1)
Eomer -> Mac (Mac 2; Farael 2; Rikae 1)
SpM -> Farael (Farael 3; Mac 2; Rikae 1)
The Might -> Mac (Mac 3; Farael 3; Rikae 1)
mormegil -> Farael (Farael 4; Mac 3; Rikae 1)
Kath -> Mac (Mac 4; Farael 4; Rikae 1)
Boromir88 -> -Rikae (Mac 4; Farael 4)
mormegil -> -Farael; +Mac (Mac 5; Farael 3)
Farael -> Mac (Mac 6; Farael 3)

Left to vote: myself, Isabellkya and Boro (plus if someone retracts)

I strongly doubt that Farael is going to be lynched unless someone retract or all of us vote Farael (which in the case of Boro is improbable). For this maybe my heart is lighter in this tangled situation, for my personal choice does not seem to matter that much (although who knows?), on the other hand, I strongly hope Farael indeed is the Seer as he claims and the village was not mislead. But whatever, I am going to at least try. We learn the truth whatever the matter, but I will better withstand my conscience if I vote Farael and am wrong than if I voted Mac and was wrong.

So:

++Farael

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Old 12-31-2007, 03:00 PM   #14
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Hm, if Mac is lynched and innocent I think Boro's post will give enough to analyse toMorrow... anyway, even if Mac is indeed a Wolf, I think it's quite early to talk the remaining (?) Wolf yet, I will wait first what toDay brings. Yet that has to wait till tomorrow (RL). Happy New Year to everyone, and a good start to the new year and my wish is that we find each other here also next year, on the Downs, happily even playing WW , on 31th December. Enjoy everything, whatever your timezone is.
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