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Late Istar
Join Date: Mar 2001
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True, but horns of this sort probably don't count as musical instruments.
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Princess of Skwerlz
Join Date: Jan 2002
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![]() As to the laws of acoustics, if the instruments are so similar to ours, the acoustics must be similar too.
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Cryptic Aura
Join Date: May 2002
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Horns do seem to have an especially military connection, going back at least to the Battle of Jericho (OT, Joshua) where the ritualistic blowing of rams' horns by priests led to the fall of the walls of Jericho, leading to the slaughter of almost the entire populace in the city.
Now there's an echo with power.
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Loremaster of Annúminas
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Laws of acoustics: since the echoes keep getting louder and louder, something other than Newtonian physics is at work.
Nor would ol' Isaac have an explanation for why Orcs would find the sound painful and terrifying.
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Princess of Skwerlz
Join Date: Jan 2002
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I am now working on this topic, preliminary research so far, and trying to structure the information and my thoughts. The lecture has been accepted and, barring obstacles beyond my control, will be held at the Tolkien Seminar in April. Any additional thoughts and references you'd like to contribute are very much welcome!
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Princess of Skwerlz
Join Date: Jan 2002
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I guess I'm the main contributor to my own thread here! My research is turning up interesting tidbits of information that I'll share with you as I find them. As always, your comments and additions are very welcome.
The first fact comes from The History of The Hobbit; in Tolkien's early version of that passage, the Dwarves' instruments were originally somewhat magical in nature. The fiddles and flutes were brought out normally, but Quote:
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Actually, I have come up with the answer to the "what happened" - when the ponies were taken by the goblins, it is said: Quote:
- and similar use of weapons) I assume that the instruments were destroyed, perhaps taken apart for any materials of value that they might have contained.More to come in the next days - I'm now working my way through pertinent references in Sil, UT, and HoME as well as LotR.
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Spirit of the Lonely Star
Join Date: Mar 2002
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Esty,
I am enjoying your comments and insights immensely. I can't add anything helpful, but please keep posting as you progress!
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