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Old 12-18-2007, 11:34 AM   #1
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who find Sean Bean quite resistable. While I was amazed to see that Karl Urban looks amazing when shaved and with short hair (I loathe beards and dislike long hair on men - though Viggo might just be the exception that proves the rule), I fell in love with Hugo Weaving when I was 14 and I am a very faithful hound . So I don't care that his hair is receding, he still has my vote( "Morrrrrrrrrdoorrrrrrrrrr" *thud*..
Was the thud the sound of his ham dropping on the floor as he acted the part? It's that "Morrrrrrrdoooorrrrrr" thing that puts me off. He's much better in Priscilla I think.

Viggo's no good because he has that weird thing going on where he's dark but has no eyebrows. Like the opposite of Hugo in fact.

There are altogether too many mullets and beards going on in Middle-earth in general. They've either got one or both. Not good. Boromir looks the cleanest of the lot though.
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Old 12-18-2007, 12:38 PM   #2
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Sorry Lal, but I now have to kill you. I think he did very well with what the script left of Elrond ...but I love Priscilla - what that says about my psyche is probably best left unsaid. But I am not sure that his finest role was not the sheepdog in Babe....

Sean Bean always look like his head is too big for his body and was set upside down..that hack jaw ... nah....

David Wenham is not particularly handsome but he is attractive and has a nice voice..... voices are my weakness
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I'm going to reveal myself as the complete nutcase I am (and answer something I left unanswered in my original post on the 'downs) by saying:
Brad Dourif and Andy Serkis! (With the latter, I'm referring to his incarnation as "young Smeagol" - pointy ears, long hair and all. Precious!)
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Hmmmm.....well I'm not into the whole elven thing of long blonde hair and talking real slow and elegant. I'm not into girls either, so I'd have to say that the best looking is Boromir!
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Old 12-18-2007, 02:47 PM   #5
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Sorry Lal, but I now have to kill you. I think he did very well with what the script left of Elrond ...but I love Priscilla - what that says about my psyche is probably best left unsaid. But I am not sure that his finest role was not the sheepdog in Babe....

Sean Bean always look like his head is too big for his body and was set upside down..that hack jaw ... nah....

David Wenham is not particularly handsome but he is attractive and has a nice voice..... voices are my weakness
I'll let you off for the simple reason that at least he's not a great big girls blouse like the other male Elves, wafting around in their kaftans saying 'whispy' things and sulking under their greasy hair...they even annoy me how they use their swords in the manner of synchronised swimming instead of raddling them around in a wild, manly fashion

Wenham has the advantage of getting given the part of the tastiest book character
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Well, guess I'd go with Rosie here, I like her more then the Elvish gals.
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This should be made into an actual poll.

Galadriel=Cate Blanchett=the one I thought the most beautiful.
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Galadriel=Cate Blanchett=the one I thought the most beautiful.
I'd agree that Cate Blanchett is the most beautiful of the ones discussed in real life (well, in pictures and tv/films outside LotR) and sure there is something elvenlike in her... but somehow I was disappointed in the end with her as Galadriel. I don't know why.

I'd probably go for Miranda Otto... How she sings the burial lament for Théodred and how she smiles on the refugee trail... Well, that's enough for me.
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Cate Blanchett!

Not only is she the best looking, she is simply the best!

The best casted, the best actress, She Is Galadriel!
I quite agree. Cate Blanchett has an other wordly air about her in many of her movies. (I find her particularly striking as Elizabeth I) I'm not always a fan of the lines she was given as Galadriel, but she delivered them wonderfully.
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Wenham has the advantage of getting given the part of the tastiest book character

Oh that we can certainly agree on. Faramir and Kester Woodseaves as the most wonderful men in all literature....
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Both Arwen (Liv Tyler) and Eowyn (Miranda Otto) are quite gorgeous...I really can't choose, they're both too beautiful for such a choice. We'll call it a draw
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Old 12-19-2007, 07:23 PM   #12
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Personally I would have to say that yes, Viggo Mortensen is the best looking, but I also think that Billy Boyd is a good second. And yes this should be an offical poll.

A note of interest I would like to add is that I am actully the author of the thread, Roborovskii, but TheGreatElvenWarrior was giving me so much trouble over "how stupid" the thread was (apparently I was killing squirrels) that I decided to start a new account as Laurinque.
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Old 12-19-2007, 11:20 PM   #13
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As a man, I feel qualified only to mention who seems the beauty of the films among the women featured.

There aren't too many to go on. Arwen, Eowyn and Galadriel are the main ladies. All of the others are covered in grime and have messy hair, so as not to detract from the others.

Of the three, then, I would have to pick Eowyn/Miranda Otto. I never found Arwen/Liv Tyler attractive, and her interviews just remove all doubt. Galadriel/Cate Blanchett is just too...motherly, somehow.
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Personally I would have to say that yes, Viggo Mortensen is the best looking, but I also think that Billy Boyd is a good second. And yes this should be an offical poll.

A note of interest I would like to add is that I am actully the author of the thread, Roborovskii, but TheGreatElvenWarrior was giving me so much trouble over "how stupid" the thread was (apparently I was killing squirrels) that I decided to start a new account as Laurinque.
Forgive me for finding this amusing. But you needn't worry about it. The fact that several old downers posted on this thread with no problem, shows it isn't stupid enought to "kill squirrels". By the way, old downers for me count as people who have topped 1000 posts.
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Was the thud the sound of his ham dropping on the floor as he acted the part? It's that "Morrrrrrrdoooorrrrrr" thing that puts me off. He's much better in Priscilla I think.
If only Elrond's wardrobe had allowed for the same fabulous dress of Priscilla.

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When I first saw TTT I thought Miranda Otto was sort of an ill-fit for Eowyn. I thought she was too small for the image I had in my mind of Eowyn. But I was so moved by her lament in the extended edition my mind changed and her acting in ROTK was pretty amazing as well.
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If only Elrond's wardrobe had allowed for the same fabulous dress of Priscilla.
I think Hugo expressed his camp side well though, when he presented Anduril to Aragorn, that superb cape swish was worthy of any drag queen


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Yes, Other Lal - Airhead Corner. Hehe. If only there was now some way I could bring Richard Armitage into this conversation....oh yes, I know, he could have been a really good Faramir.
Now there's the odd thing. I am completely convinced that Faramir is Robin Hood himself brought to Middle-earth, but he plays Robin's nemesis Guy of Gisborne! Maybe he could be in The Hobbit? He'd make a good Bard. He even has the right accent, being that Lake Town is most definitely Northern.
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Hmm...Bard. He broods, doesn't he? Yes, I could live with that.

The reason I thought Faramir was partly that Armitage in the role could help reconcile me to the character. I've just never liked Faramir as I ought to - found him a bit pious and dreary - which I feel bad about. I think that perhaps the sight of Armitage suffering with "weariness, grief for his father's mood, a wound, and over all the Black Breath" would help soften me.
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Alright, alright, I'll say who I think is the best looking. Though, understand, I haven't fallen in love, gushed, or anything over any of these gents or ladies - ever!

The best looking was probably David Wenham. I really liked Sean Bean's Boromir, though...

And by the way, for you men out there....there is another pretty woman in the movies who is not a main character and who is not all dirty and begrimed. She's in Gondor, one of the ladies who went out to bid Faramir farewell, who is absolutely gorgeous (I think). She's prettier than Arwen and possibly Eowyn...but I wouldn't have Eowyn be exchanged for the world - she was one of the best adapted characters.
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I really have no clue why I like Billy Boyd so much Lalaith, I think it is mostly the fact I am so fond of his character, Pippin.
You know...I can't call you Robi anymore....can I, but anyway I fell in love with Peregrin when I first saw the movies because of his character and his looks, but when I read the books I was even more crazy about him! But Billy Boyd when he's not playing Pippin is not as good looking.

But... people are going to kill me for this, Orlando Bloom is not so good looking when he's Legolas (which is a pretty respectable character in the books) or when he is someone else. My family, just by coincidence watched a bunch of movies with Orlio in them the other day and them more I see of him, the more I dislike him. Samwise is the way to go!
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Tisk, tisk, not liking poor Legolas eh? Shame.

As for Billy Boyd, I DEFINITLY prefer him as Pippin, in real life he's just another pretty face. Ah, Pippin, I adore Pippin...not really sure why though.
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You know...I can't call you Robi anymore....can I, but anyway I fell in love with Peregrin when I first saw the movies because of his character and his looks, but when I read the books I was even more crazy about him! But Billy Boyd when he's not playing Pippin is not as good looking.
I got the radio production of LotR and I have been listening to it for a while and Pippin doesn't sound like Pippin to me and not as totally awesome, but maybe that is the fault of how Billy Boyd sounds and he is what I thougt Pippin should sound like. I don't know maybe I am just crazy!?
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Brad Dourif and Andy Serkis! (With the latter, I'm referring to his incarnation as "young Smeagol" - pointy ears, long hair and all. Precious!)
Yes, he is very good looking(before the Gollumificating process)!
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Yes, he is very good looking(before the Gollumificating process)!
Have you seen 24 Hour Party People? He's a bit scary in that and he's not even Gollumified*

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there is another pretty woman in the movies who is not a main character and who is not all dirty and begrimed. She's in Gondor, one of the ladies who went out to bid Faramir farewell, who is absolutely gorgeous (I think). She's prettier than Arwen and possibly Eowyn
I assume you mean the girl slightly to the left, next to the hooded person, in this shot? If so then I agree that she is absolutely stunning, definitely better-looking than Eowyn or maybe even Arwen.
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I assume you mean the girl slightly to the left, next to the hooded person, in this shot? If so then I agree that she is absolutely stunning, definitely better-looking than Eowyn or maybe even Arwen.
Yes, she is quite beautiful... should have used her for Arwen!
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Perhaps this question about beauty, appearance and appeal can best be discussed by considering some criteria for choices.

There was a time when the criteria for beauty were considered to be eternal and absolute. There's lots of discussion of the Venus de Milo and the David as perfect representations of female and male form. Yet at the same time art over the centuries has given us various versions of attractiveness: Reubens' female forms would not be considered desireable by today's standards of anorexic fashion models. Even Marilyn Monroe, one of the most desireable of all Hollywood sex symbols, would by today's standards be considered a tad fleshy. And how would Brad Pitt measure up against John Wayne? Or Greory Peck against Johnny Depp?

Is it always youth and the fullness of health? Or do some forms of beauty evoke wisdom, maturity, calmness, self-possession? Or is the hint and thrill of danger an attractive aspect of beauty?

The threads on Novice and Newcomers aren't expected to have the depth (or dryness ) of the threads in Books, yet still at the Barrow Downs some form of reasoned opinion is expected. Maybe we could get away from unexamined or unexplained opinion (which leads so quickly to personal insult) and more into the reasons why each one of us finds different characters appealing.

For starters, here's a bit of background on Aesthetic relativism. I'm sure it's boring enough to drive the petty insults away before the mods find this thread.

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Um...to each his own...I guess...
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I think Orlando Bloom looks much better with short hair! He's too girly to carry off long hair. With his little plaits and perfectly groomed blonde barnet he reminded me of um...my Girl's World*...

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Hmm...Bard. He broods, doesn't he? Yes, I could live with that.

The reason I thought Faramir was partly that Armitage in the role could help reconcile me to the character. I've just never liked Faramir as I ought to - found him a bit pious and dreary - which I feel bad about. I think that perhaps the sight of Armitage suffering with "weariness, grief for his father's mood, a wound, and over all the Black Breath" would help soften me.
Well you know, it would help you appreciate Faramir more, and I wouldn't object...so how about angling for a re-make?

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Here's another. However, while I am obviously a woman of gravitas and substance, ahem, I will admit to being shallow as a puddle in some respects. Pretty Orlando Bloom is one such respect. (I believe Madame Lush is with me on this one...)
Oh, Madame Lush is with you all the way, Lalaith. That man is so fine... He could walk around with a chattering gibbon on his head and still look attractive, never mind some prissy blond wig.

I also have a thing for Viggo's Aragorn, but more so in the first film than I do in the later ones. I like it when he's all sensitive and mysterious and slightly unsure of himself and wearing dirty clothes (he's too clean in RotK... I guess you can always say that Legolas is clean all the time - but he's an Elf, that's allowed), for some reason... AND Billy Boyd. I dated a dude who looked a lot like him once. I've only recently made the connection when I unearthed some of our pictures together at my parents' house. There's that impish quality you can't pass up.

I also think that Miranda Otto is stunning. She's got this face that's very hard to pin down - she looks very different from different angles (well, we all do - but I would say this is really pronounced when you're watching her on film), and it makes her not merely gorgeous, but also interesting.
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I think Orlando Bloom looks much better with short hair! He's too girly to carry off long hair. With his little plaits and perfectly groomed blonde barnet he reminded me of um...my Girl's World*...

*Mithalwen and Lalaith will know what these are! I still have mine in the attic.

Only because I saw James May's programme the other day. I didn't have anything so fancy - as youngest child and youngest cousin hand me downs were my fate and that isn't going to happen with that kind of thing...

But Orli does look better not being plutonium blonde.

Richard Armitage is fab though but I see him more as Boromir - bit edgier ..unless of course you had Hugh Jackman as Boromir and RA as Faramir ... now that is a thought
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The reason I thought of Jennifer O'Dell from the TV series Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's The Lost World for Galadriel was because years ago there was a painting on one of the annual LotR calendars that showed Galadriel with Sam and Frodo with her mirror. It was a beautiful painting, simply breathtaking, and Galadriel was stunningly beautiful in it, just as I had always imagined her to be when I read the books. The first time I saw Jennifer O'Dell I immediately thought of Galadriel in that painting, and this was before I ever heard that there was going to be a live-action movie made of LotR. So my first and only choice for the part has always been Jennifer O'Dell for Galadriel.

By the way, does anyone else remember that painting from the calendar I am speaking about?

As for Jolene Blalock of Star Trek: Enterprise to play Arwen, she is, indeed, very beautiful, plus she had the added bonus of already being used to wearing pointed ears playing the part of a Vulcan!

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Old 12-31-2007, 09:32 AM   #34
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Only because I saw James May's programme the other day. I didn't have anything so fancy - as youngest child and youngest cousin hand me downs were my fate and that isn't going to happen with that kind of thing...

But Orli does look better not being plutonium blonde.

Richard Armitage is fab though but I see him more as Boromir - bit edgier ..unless of course you had Hugh Jackman as Boromir and RA as Faramir ... now that is a thought
James May was wrong about Girls World ending up tatty though - mine is pristine, and I still have her make up, and what's more, it still works. Because I was a conscientious child and always washed and dried her face and hair after playing with her. I think the only bit that got lost was the false eyelashes...

Now back to the programme...now you're talking! That would be a great combo! Although I still think Bean cannot be replaced. How about a combo of Bean as Boromir and Armitage as Faramir? They both sound Northern too, so it would fit, although Armitage is a Lancastrian...

Now I admit, Elijah Wood has everything in the right place, but he's just too girly for my liking. It would have been better if they'd got Jake Gyllenhall (or however you spell it) in, if they wanted a 'kiddy Frodo' - he has that whole liquid puppy dog eyes thing going on without looking too wussy
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