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12-17-2007, 07:48 AM
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Cryptic Aura
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Well, the horn of Boromir calls others for aid, but it isn't really a magical horn.
btw, I've never really thought of the flute in the Piped Piper as magical itself--the magic and mystery was in the Piper himself and the music he wrought and how he understood it to affect his audience. Are there versions of the story where the flute is played by other people and still has the same affect? Or is the story related to Mozart's Magic Flute?
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12-17-2007, 07:18 PM
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Shade of Carn Dűm
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magic pied piper flute's
The only one that comes to mind is at the very end of Terry Pratchett's (the pipe the kid wins off the establised piper) The Amazing Maurice and his Educated Rodents and even then the "magic is mechanical" (its just a special slide to make the pipe tuned to rat ears)
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12-17-2007, 09:30 PM
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Loremaster of Annúminas
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Helm's horn appears to defy the laws of acoustics- and scares the bejeepers out of Orcs.
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12-18-2007, 02:47 PM
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Yet one horn...
Merry's horn. The description points quite clearly at the magic being in the horn, not the blower.
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12-18-2007, 03:07 PM
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Late Istar
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True, but horns of this sort probably don't count as musical instruments.
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12-19-2007, 05:07 AM
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Princess of Skwerlz
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 As to the laws of acoustics, if the instruments are so similar to ours, the acoustics must be similar too.
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12-19-2007, 08:28 AM
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Cryptic Aura
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Horns do seem to have an especially military connection, going back at least to the Battle of Jericho (OT, Joshua) where the ritualistic blowing of rams' horns by priests led to the fall of the walls of Jericho, leading to the slaughter of almost the entire populace in the city.
Now there's an echo with power.
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12-19-2007, 03:14 AM
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A Voice That Gainsayeth
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Anyway, who told you what the laws of acoustics are in there?
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